From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Toolbar mode on/off Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 00:04:06 -0700 Message-ID: References: <85r6knguvq.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190703889 11091 80.91.229.12 (25 Sep 2007 07:04:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 07:04:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "David Kastrup" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 25 09:04:43 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ia4TJ-0006x3-Fs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 09:04:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ia4TG-0007kC-JI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 03:04:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ia4TD-0007jh-P8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 03:04:35 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ia4TB-0007jV-BO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 03:04:34 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ia4TB-0007jS-5c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 03:04:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ia4T7-0007wR-8t; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 03:04:29 -0400 Original-Received: from agminet01.oracle.com ([141.146.126.228]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ia4T6-0003Wc-HB; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 03:04:28 -0400 Original-Received: from agmgw1.us.oracle.com (agmgw1.us.oracle.com [152.68.180.212]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id l8P74QpY030040; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 02:04:26 -0500 Original-Received: from acsmt350.oracle.com (acsmt350.oracle.com [141.146.40.150]) by agmgw1.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.0/Switch-3.2.0) with ESMTP id l8OAQVmb012787; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 01:04:25 -0600 Original-Received: from dhcp-amer-csvpn-gw1-141-144-64-198.vpn.oracle.com by acsmt350.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3242156821190703829; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 00:03:49 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <85r6knguvq.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:79779 Archived-At: > > In Emacs 22.1, I don't see shrinking of anything. The number of > > lines displayed is reduced or increased - that's the only change I > > see. > > If you say > M-x tool-bar-mode RET > > 4 times in a row, you end up with the same size frame as before? > Guess you are lucky then. Nope. Absolutely no change in frame size, including with emacs -Q. But as I say, I'm using Emacs 22.1, the released version. Perhaps you are using a more recent version, in which a bug has been introduced? > > Just to be sure I understand. Are you saying that turning the > > tool-bar on or off should have the (side-)effect of changing the > > font size? > > Nonsense. What's nonsense? That was a question. You seem to be saying that you do see such a frame size change, but that you agree that it is not desirable. Is that right? > > If so, my answer would be no, it should not. Better to change the > > frame size (if necessary) than the font size, IMO. But I don't see > > either one change in Emacs 22.1 (and that's good). > > You don't see the frame size change at all? Then you must have a > particularly lucky relation between toolbar height and font size, or > your toolkit behaves different from mine (GTK+). No, I do not see any frame size change, regardless of what font or font size I use. I'm using 22.1 on MS Windows.