From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: pete.a.lee@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, mathias.dahl@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Scratch buffer annoyance
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 06:26:33 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <BNELLINCGFJLDJIKDGACAENCCAAA.drew.adams@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1ICQa0-00037T-BR@fencepost.gnu.org>
> 1. Open to the *Customize Browser* buffer. I think you're
> proposing this.
>
> 2. Open to the *Customize Group* buffer (say *Customize Group:
> convenience*).
>
> 3. Open to the *Customize Option: visit-on-startup* buffer.
>
> #3 sounds too specific. Yes, it would enable someone to turn
> off the splash screen, but it wouldn't show that there are other
> possibilities.
>
> I think #2 is best. It avoids unnecessary indirection while showing
> more than just one option.
>
> Whenever the user asks to customize a single option, should
> we just open the browser to a browser display that shows
> that option or its group somewhere on it
>
> That's a different issue. When the user specifically asks to customize
> one option, we should provide that option. But here the user
> would be asking to "customize the startup screen". That is NOT
> a request for one option.
It was at the time of the message you replied to - the single option was
`visit-on-startup'. However, since then, the discussion moved on.
My last proposal was that the link [Customize Startup Display] lead to
`customize-group' for a customize group `startup-display'. That buffer,
`*Customize Group: startup-display*' would show everything for the startup
display:
> `visit-on-startup' [Hide Value] [Value Menu]
> What to show/visit on startup.
>
> `fancy-splash-screen' group: Go to Group
> Fancy splash screen when Emacs starts.
With this approach, #2 above becomes the same thing: go to the customize
group, which would be `startup-display'.
Startup display deserves its own group because (1) most of the stuff in
group `initialization' has nothing to do with the startup display, and (2)
`visit-on-startup' is about the startup display, but it is not about the
`fancy-splash-screen'. This new goldilocks group is just right for
everything about the startup display. It doesn't include everything about
initialization, and it includes more than just the splash screen.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-22 13:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 218+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-06 0:06 Scratch buffer annoyance Chong Yidong
2007-07-06 4:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-07-15 21:37 ` Leo
2007-07-15 22:19 ` David Reitter
2007-07-15 22:42 ` Zhang Wei
2007-07-15 22:52 ` Juri Linkov
2007-07-16 15:49 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-15 22:24 ` Karl Fogel
2007-07-16 20:32 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2007-07-17 15:05 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-17 15:28 ` David Reitter
2007-07-17 15:50 ` Tassilo Horn
2007-07-17 16:00 ` Johan Bockgård
2007-07-17 16:04 ` David Reitter
2007-07-17 16:57 ` Tassilo Horn
2007-07-17 19:37 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-07-17 22:15 ` David Reitter
2007-07-18 14:11 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-18 15:53 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-07-17 18:42 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2007-07-17 19:50 ` Tassilo Horn
2007-07-17 20:01 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2007-07-17 16:02 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-17 16:10 ` David Reitter
2007-07-18 20:53 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-18 21:28 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-19 21:20 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-17 18:42 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2007-07-17 18:55 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-17 20:31 ` Mathias Dahl
2007-07-17 21:56 ` Jason Rumney
2007-07-18 0:35 ` Johan Bockgård
2007-07-17 19:59 ` Tassilo Horn
2007-07-17 20:28 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-07-18 9:22 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-18 10:23 ` Tassilo Horn
2007-07-18 10:56 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-18 20:53 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-18 20:53 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-18 14:11 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-17 16:36 ` Chong Yidong
2007-07-18 20:53 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-17 17:48 ` Drew Adams
2007-07-18 20:29 ` Juri Linkov
2007-07-19 0:00 ` Drew Adams
2007-07-19 14:25 ` Mathias Dahl
2007-07-19 14:45 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-19 15:44 ` Peter Lee
2007-07-20 13:42 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-20 21:01 ` Drew Adams
2007-07-21 8:54 ` Mathias Dahl
2007-07-21 9:35 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-21 9:48 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-21 15:14 ` Drew Adams
2007-07-21 15:46 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-22 10:05 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-22 10:40 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-23 4:29 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-22 1:49 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-22 13:26 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2007-07-23 4:28 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-21 18:07 ` Juri Linkov
2007-07-23 4:28 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-23 21:45 ` Juri Linkov
2007-07-24 16:45 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-25 0:12 ` Juri Linkov
2007-07-25 5:24 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-27 21:20 ` Juri Linkov
2007-07-27 21:16 ` Juri Linkov
2007-07-29 2:23 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-29 9:18 ` Juri Linkov
2007-07-29 9:46 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-29 14:28 ` Drew Adams
2007-07-30 16:44 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-31 8:51 ` Miles Bader
2007-07-31 13:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-07-31 14:29 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-31 20:22 ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-01 4:34 ` Miles Bader
2007-08-01 4:35 ` Miles Bader
2007-08-01 5:14 ` Drew Adams
2007-08-01 5:55 ` David Kastrup
2007-08-01 6:18 ` Drew Adams
2007-08-01 7:46 ` David Kastrup
2007-08-01 14:32 ` Drew Adams
2007-08-01 8:34 ` Jason Rumney
2007-08-01 14:32 ` Drew Adams
2007-08-01 15:41 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-08-01 16:53 ` Drew Adams
2007-08-01 17:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-08-01 17:54 ` Drew Adams
2007-07-31 8:54 ` Miles Bader
2007-07-31 13:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-07-31 14:29 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-07-31 14:42 ` David Kastrup
2007-08-01 16:45 ` Juri Linkov
2007-08-01 17:05 ` Drew Adams
2007-08-01 18:09 ` David Kastrup
2007-08-01 18:29 ` Drew Adams
2007-08-01 19:43 ` David Kastrup
2007-08-01 19:54 ` Davis Herring
2007-08-01 21:09 ` David Kastrup
2007-08-01 23:15 ` Miles Bader
2007-08-01 23:21 ` Davis Herring
2007-08-02 0:45 ` Miles Bader
2007-08-02 23:42 ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-03 18:16 ` Juri Linkov
2007-08-03 22:02 ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-04 7:02 ` David Kastrup
2007-08-05 3:05 ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-05 6:57 ` David Kastrup
2007-08-05 20:54 ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-05 16:59 ` Juri Linkov
2007-08-06 14:19 ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-06 14:35 ` David Kastrup
2007-08-07 1:22 ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-07 6:13 ` David Kastrup
2007-08-07 20:11 ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-07 20:57 ` David Kastrup
2007-08-09 0:07 ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-09 19:54 ` Juri Linkov
2007-08-09 22:24 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-08-11 5:05 ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-19 23:16 ` buffer-auto-mode-alist (was: Scratch buffer annoyance) Juri Linkov
2007-08-20 18:31 ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-08 22:59 ` Scratch buffer annoyance Juri Linkov
2007-08-08 23:53 ` David Kastrup
2007-08-09 19:47 ` Juri Linkov
2007-08-09 20:09 ` David Kastrup
2007-08-11 5:05 ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-12 20:45 ` Juri Linkov
2007-08-12 23:20 ` Johan Bockgård
2007-08-13 5:00 ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-13 5:57 ` David Kastrup
2007-08-14 0:28 ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-15 23:32 ` Juri Linkov
2007-08-16 0:59 ` Glenn Morris
2007-08-16 20:11 ` Juri Linkov
2007-08-17 4:50 ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-17 22:35 ` Juri Linkov
2007-08-19 0:44 ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-19 14:45 ` Juri Linkov
2007-08-19 22:30 ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-17 23:32 ` Glenn Morris
2007-08-19 14:50 ` Juri Linkov
2007-08-19 22:30 ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-19 23:21 ` Juri Linkov
2007-08-20 18:31 ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-20 23:28 ` Juri Linkov
2007-08-21 9:07 ` Mathias Dahl
2007-08-21 23:23 ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-23 0:14 ` Juri Linkov
2007-08-23 20:58 ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-25 14:28 ` Juri Linkov
2007-08-25 17:06 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2007-08-25 19:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-08-25 19:53 ` David Kastrup
2007-08-25 20:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-08-25 23:33 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-08-26 5:33 ` David Kastrup
2007-08-26 14:56 ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-26 23:45 ` Juri Linkov
[not found] ` <E1IPj9w-0003bw-4e@fencepost.gnu.org>
2007-09-02 21:01 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-03 18:25 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-03 23:46 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-04 16:45 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-04 22:57 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-05 20:02 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-06 14:54 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-07 6:32 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-07 8:57 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-08 7:00 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-07 6:32 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-07 8:55 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-08 7:00 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-07 6:32 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-07 8:56 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-07 17:56 ` Glenn Morris
2007-09-07 22:54 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-08 19:47 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-09 12:35 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-09 20:06 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-07 6:32 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-09 12:36 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-09 20:06 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-07 6:32 ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-19 15:30 ` Mathias Dahl
2007-08-19 17:48 ` Juri Linkov
2007-08-20 15:17 ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-19 22:30 ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-19 23:21 ` Juri Linkov
2007-08-20 18:31 ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-20 23:29 ` Juri Linkov
2007-08-20 2:29 ` Glenn Morris
2007-08-20 8:13 ` Mathias Dahl
2007-08-20 18:30 ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-20 23:28 ` Juri Linkov
2007-08-21 23:23 ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-16 2:42 ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-16 20:12 ` Juri Linkov
2007-08-17 4:50 ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-19 14:55 ` Juri Linkov
2007-08-19 22:30 ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-13 23:30 ` Juri Linkov
2007-08-02 15:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-08-02 23:42 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-19 18:28 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2007-07-21 17:13 ` Dieter Wilhelm
2007-07-21 18:12 ` Juri Linkov
2007-07-21 18:52 ` Drew Adams
2007-07-21 19:24 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-22 18:37 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-22 19:09 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-22 21:43 ` Juri Linkov
2007-07-23 18:07 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-22 19:41 ` Drew Adams
2007-07-22 19:58 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-18 20:53 ` Richard Stallman
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