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From: PJ Weisberg <pj@irregularexpressions.net>
To: herring@lanl.gov
Cc: chad <yandros@mit.edu>, Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>,
	Emacs-Devel devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Binding M-n and M-p to forward-paragraph and backward-paragraphrespectively
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 15:50:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTikTB9K5VdNqK-RD3pS6i7RGH=7qxA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <61330.130.55.132.8.1302384543.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov>

On 4/9/11, Davis Herring <herring@lanl.gov> wrote:
>> The last go-round about binding some (function) key by default clearly
>> demonstrated this: The discussion had not even finished, and no
>> decision had yet been reached, before some were sending in posts
>> that indicated that they understood that the key was _reserved_ and
>> should not be changed by users or 3rd-party libraries.
>
> Are you talking about the Alt-F4 (or M-f4) discussion?  If so, that was
> heavily influenced by issues of whether Emacs should respect window system
> conventions (and if so, which systems), and whether Emacs should attempt
> to be just like every other program (for newbies' sake) but still somehow
> better, and whether there was a difference between unbound and
> specifically turned off, and how many layers of indirection to provide in
> keymap customization, etc.  It's a very poor example for the issue of
> adding non-famous keys to the default global map.  (It is, however, a very
> good example of how contentious any tampering with that global map is.)

It was also somewhat of a special case in that on some systems (e.g.
Gnome, KDE) Emacs actually doesn't have the power to override the
system-wide binding, but on other systems (Windows) it overrides the
system-wide binding by default, just by not passing the keys through
to Windows.

-PJ



  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-09 22:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-07 13:57 Binding M-n and M-p to forward-paragraph and backward-paragraph respectively Deniz Dogan
2011-04-07 16:33 ` Binding M-n and M-p to forward-paragraph and backward-paragraphrespectively Drew Adams
2011-04-07 17:57   ` Sean Sieger
2011-04-07 18:15     ` Binding M-n and M-p to forward-paragraph andbackward-paragraphrespectively Drew Adams
2011-04-07 18:24       ` Sean Sieger
2011-04-07 18:28         ` Binding M-n and M-p to forward-paragraphandbackward-paragraphrespectively Drew Adams
2011-04-07 18:29           ` Sean Sieger
2011-04-07 20:31             ` Antoine Levitt
2011-04-07 20:53               ` Binding M-n and M-p toforward-paragraphandbackward-paragraphrespectively Drew Adams
2011-04-08  3:13                 ` Davis Herring
2011-04-08  8:09                   ` Andreas Röhler
2011-04-07 22:30               ` Binding M-n and M-p to forward-paragraphandbackward-paragraphrespectively David De La Harpe Golden
2011-04-08 10:19                 ` Antoine Levitt
2011-04-08 21:48                   ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-09  1:40 ` Binding M-n and M-p to forward-paragraph and backward-paragraph respectively Stefan Monnier
2011-04-09  4:10   ` chad
2011-04-09 15:24     ` Binding M-n and M-p to forward-paragraph and backward-paragraphrespectively Drew Adams
2011-04-09 19:09       ` chad
2011-04-09 19:26         ` Drew Adams
2011-04-10  2:49           ` Leo
2011-04-10  3:10             ` chad
2011-04-10  5:37               ` Leo
2011-04-10  9:15                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-04-10 13:17                   ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-09 21:29       ` Davis Herring
2011-04-09 22:50         ` PJ Weisberg [this message]
2011-04-09 19:30   ` Binding M-n and M-p to forward-paragraph and backward-paragraph respectively Chong Yidong
2011-04-10  3:33     ` Stefan Monnier

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