From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Virtual Info keyword finder Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:45:58 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87ljmv6mnz.fsf@mail.jurta.org><8947BFC10154437C9F8CE366F822E6E1@us.oracle.com> <87tz1hop45.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1247420783 833 80.91.229.12 (12 Jul 2009 17:46:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:46:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Juri Linkov' , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "'Chong Yidong'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 12 19:46:15 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MQ37u-0000NC-6A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:46:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53645 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MQ37t-00011t-Kt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:46:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MQ37p-00011o-5H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:46:09 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MQ37k-00010L-Ek for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:46:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50365 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MQ37k-00010B-35 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:46:04 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet11.oracle.com ([141.146.126.233]:36437) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MQ37j-00032i-7R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:46:03 -0400 Original-Received: from rgminet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by acsinet11.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n6CHjxsY031364 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:46:00 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt006.oracle.com (abhmt006.oracle.com [141.146.116.15]) by rgminet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n6CHk34u011040; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:46:03 GMT Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/24.5.190.74) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:45:54 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <87tz1hop45.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Thread-Index: AcoDDBiPJ1Mge/b3SjeECrOf7The8AACGcEA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Source-IP: abhmt006.oracle.com [141.146.116.15] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A010208.4A5A2153.002D:SCFSTAT5015188,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:112371 Archived-At: > > Info mode is not as simple as Finder mode - it has extra > > features and extra limitations, which means it interacts > > differently from Finder with other (minor) > > modes that users might use at the same time. > > > > For example, I use Finder mode in combination with Linkd minor mode. > > http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/LinkdMode > > > > Linkd has its own kind of hypertext links. In Finder, these > > work within and between (Finder) Commentary buffers. Without > > Finder, the same Linkd links still work within and between > > sections of files (including Commentary sections). > > > > Coupling Finder with Info in the way you propose makes it follow > > Info's limitations, from syntax to behavior, including UI. I'm not > > against an Info extension to give it Finder-like > > functionality - that would be good. But I don't want to see plain > > old, simple Finder get lost in the bargain. It is a useful tool > > in its own right. > > How bout if we replace the programming interface to Finder with a > compatible one (e.g. providing the same interface functions), while > changing the underlying mechanics as Juri suggested. Maybe, but I can't really tell what you mean, so I can't say. Could you be more specific? My concern is to also have available the existing Finder mode, that is, not just within Info mode. I don't really care about the mode name or function names for Finder (e.g. `finder-commentary'), as long as the same behavior is available. I could easily change my code to call different functions, if that's what you meant.