From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bozhidar Batsov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Visual bell patch for emacs on OSX Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 14:52:58 +0200 Message-ID: References: <874n688ih2.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="52b19aaa_6f6dd9ac_1c26" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1387371230 953 80.91.229.3 (18 Dec 2013 12:53:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 12:53:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel , Stefan Monnier , =?utf-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_T=C3=A1vora?= To: =?utf-8?Q?Jan_Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 18 13:53:55 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VtGdO-0005iv-Qz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 13:53:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38449 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VtGdO-0000sJ-CN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 07:53:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56022) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VtGdG-0000sD-5q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 07:53:51 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VtGd7-0000yK-CZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 07:53:46 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ee0-f47.google.com ([74.125.83.47]:46600) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VtGd7-0000yE-5j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 07:53:37 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-ee0-f47.google.com with SMTP id e51so2949229eek.6 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 04:53:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:content-type; bh=6tlO3nJup3JKaoWXdBj5YyzbTemJqSNcWCYms7BqjAw=; b=dwkZr8eMDG79cRQ5n1N1jqnnKz2IXD3U1eyqRca73kRPrrqX1kD0KWD3sXuZpPxeVU SpLoeX08CXeajlp4zLrToF0Z0B9C9NkWmRXOgMQeM1Gr5mY2vu/3tlo7Ex/QomDXTtQ8 578JQqVwrdVlQZmkZQcLCbHBu76LirIPQuvXcr//6+ssHBTVrrkar9TqHLB7lEQMIJoQ ZkW4ifxaXMxaUEkrfA1IFgj6Ez24vHeVpPTffzoSK0SnyLOw1ZLrZ/LfHN/qrG0rfNfN K332pAWhgHa3oDN93ehu4WYXNa1jTW0Z5Vp/NvhQ4XmZpHTwgWUGMftmw7dETGD6O2jO /SAA== X-Received: by 10.14.208.199 with SMTP id q47mr28959973eeo.77.1387371181283; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 04:53:01 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.28] ([95.87.231.111]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 4sm62237622eed.14.2013.12.18.04.52.59 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 18 Dec 2013 04:53:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: sparrow 1.6.4 (build 1178) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 74.125.83.47 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:166581 Archived-At: --52b19aaa_6f6dd9ac_1c26 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Seems to me that GNUStep is killing the user experience of the people tha= t are actually using the NS port. =20 Maybe this is a policy worth revisiting for the sake of the people that u= se the NS port=3F -- =20 Cheers, Bozhidar On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Jan Dj=C3=A4rv wrote: > =20 > 17 dec 2013 kl. 03:11 skrev Stefan Monnier : > =20 > > > Or would I have to rewrite it to work equally well on GNUstep=3F > > =20 > > That would be sweet, > =20 > That is most likely impossible. GNUStep lacks a lot of API-functions co= mpared to Cocoa. > =20 > Jan D. =20 --52b19aaa_6f6dd9ac_1c26 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Seems to me that GNUStep is killing the user experience of the pe= ople that are actually using the NS port. 
Maybe this is a polic= y worth revisiting for the sake of the people that use the NS port=3F

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Cheers,
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Bozhidar

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On Tuesday, December 1= 7, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Jan Dj=C3=A4rv wrote:


17 dec 2013 kl. 0= 3:11 skrev Stefan Monnier <monnier=40iro.umontreal.ca>:

Or would I ha= ve to rewrite it to work equally well on GNUstep=3F

That would be sweet,

That is most likely impossible. GNUStep lacks a lot of API-func= tions compared to Cocoa.

Jan D.
=20 =20 =20 =20 =20

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