From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Van L Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: update intro to Emacs Lisp programming (was: Making Emacs Manuals Available as PDF Files) Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 10:25:19 +1000 Message-ID: References: <80DB6796-41FE-4090-B1DD-BF5AE3F4D0CF@scratch.space> <83zi16ofny.fsf@gnu.org> <6A8BB190-FA64-4697-AFDA-EFBEB4886230@scratch.space> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1526516645 17091 195.159.176.226 (17 May 2018 00:24:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 00:24:05 +0000 (UTC) To: Emacs developers Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 17 02:24:01 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fJ6i8-0004JJ-BI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 May 2018 02:24:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50398 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fJ6kF-0004Bk-4P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 May 2018 20:26:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:32902) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fJ6jb-0004BY-AF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 May 2018 20:25:33 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fJ6jY-0000QD-4h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 May 2018 20:25:31 -0400 Original-Received: from relay11.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.231]:57743) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fJ6jX-0000PH-NB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 May 2018 20:25:28 -0400 Original-Received: from epi.local (123-243-244-176.tpgi.com.au [123.243.244.176]) (Authenticated sender: van@scratch.space) by relay11.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E4FA7100012 for ; Thu, 17 May 2018 02:25:23 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 217.70.178.231 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:225354 Archived-At: > Richard Stallman writes: >=20 > Thank you very much in advance for updating the Lisp intro. Please > keep us posted. I began to read it in the info pages form and reached page 33 before = learning from the previous thread it could be rendered as PDF. The intro = is almost 300 pages in full. I had expected 60 pages. Stopping at page 45 in the PDF (page 61 of 271 in the PDF viewer) and = looking back, the word `simple=E2=80=99 was added in 2013 and has not = been applied consistently. #+BEGIN_EXAMPLE * Emacs Lisp Intro: (eintr). A simple introduction to Emacs Lisp=20 programming. f9405d87 (Glenn Morris 2013-12-11 102) * Emacs Lisp = Intro: (eintr). A simple introduction to Emacs Lisp programming. 8cda6f8f (Glenn Morris 2007-09-06 172) @center = @titlefont{An Introduction to} 8cda6f8f (Glenn Morris 2007-09-06 173) @sp 2 8cda6f8f (Glenn Morris 2007-09-06 174) @center = @titlefont{Programming in Emacs Lisp} 8cda6f8f (Glenn Morris 2007-09-06 206) @top An = Introduction to Programming in Emacs Lisp #+END_EXAMPLE For others who may want to follow along, I used (vc-annotate) or `C-x v = g=E2=80=99 inside: emacs/doc/lispintro/emacs-lisp-intro.texi to locate details in the example section above. Details about Emac=E2=80=99s version control interface are in chapter 25 = of the emacs.pdf created by `make docs=E2=80=99 or in the info pages for = Emacs 26.1 rc-1 in `28 Maintaining Large Programs=E2=80=99. > I expect that the support for lexical scoping will call for some > sort of change to the manual -- though I am not certain. For now, I=E2=80=99ll read it carefully and keep an eye out for = errorneous statements. Hopefully others will join and a collective = 15-minutes everyday from contributors around the world will improve the = manual.