From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jan D." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Glitches with the GTK toolkit Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 13:58:36 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87vfj49yqr.fsf@marant.org> <1084262636.40a088ec37014@imp4-q.free.fr> <1084300258.40a11be25a438@imp3-q.free.fr> <87isf27kxl.fsf@marant.org> <87ad0e7ima.fsf@marant.org> <94E65CF6-A395-11D8-A893-000D93505B76@swipnet.se> <1084361843.40a20c73d47fb@imp3-q.free.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v613) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1084372917 17373 80.91.224.253 (12 May 2004 14:41:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 14:41:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed May 12 16:41:36 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BNuvP-0007UG-00 for ; Wed, 12 May 2004 16:41:35 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BNuvP-0000HP-00 for ; Wed, 12 May 2004 16:41:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BNuSx-0002uL-Ja for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 12 May 2004 10:12:11 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.34) id 1BNuOf-000200-NM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 May 2004 10:07:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.34) id 1BNuMw-0001Zi-Pj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 May 2004 10:06:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.54.107.73] (helo=mxfep02.bredband.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BNsOa-00087k-H0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 May 2004 07:59:32 -0400 Original-Received: from coolsville.localdomain ([213.112.109.12] [213.112.109.12]) by mxfep02.bredband.com with ESMTP id <20040512115931.NHXJ14728.mxfep02.bredband.com@coolsville.localdomain>; Wed, 12 May 2004 13:59:31 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1084361843.40a20c73d47fb@imp3-q.free.fr> Original-To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=E9r=F4me_Marant?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:23248 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:23248 > Quoting "Jan D." : > >>> OK, I see. But I guess Emacs' interaction with GTK widget is >>> different >>> from >>> standard GTK applications. >> >> Very much so. Some of it is due to the way Emacs is made, and some is >> due to the way GTK is made. It is not a good fit... > > I'm disappointed. I'll have to get back to the Athena version since > I often use scrollbars. > Are there really no workarounds? Thanks. Well, apart from getting a faster machine, you can try a different GTK theme, not all are pixmap based. Configure Emacs --without-toolkit-scroll-bars is one thing to do, but if you don't use menus or toolbars, this becomes almost the same as compiling for pure X. Jan D.