From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean-Christophe Helary Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Translation of manuals (was: SES manual French translation) Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2024 06:13:34 +0000 Message-ID: References: <83wmsqy14p.fsf@gnu.org> <3E7CF23D-CE62-4581-80D6-E6266CEE4DF5@traductaire-libre.org> <83edexy5cy.fsf@gnu.org> <1E3685C0-7B33-45BB-BF3C-AD1215BAB33B@traductaire-libre.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32341"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: stefankangas@gmail.com, eliz@gnu.org, vincent.b.1@hotmail.fr, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 08 13:13:59 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rMoVz-00089O-1o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 08 Jan 2024 13:13:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rMoV4-0005Qt-VO; Mon, 08 Jan 2024 07:13:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rMitQ-00038O-E8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jan 2024 01:13:54 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-40136.proton.ch ([185.70.40.136]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rMitO-0003NF-21; Mon, 08 Jan 2024 01:13:48 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=traductaire-libre.org; s=protonmail; t=1704694420; x=1704953620; bh=mE0DDeeMoAjUEUbVgURfz0FmDwTEIsX5C7hAkVIh5Ak=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=Ou4x4DUPsfp2aFAYfQ/8i1ZzQ0MLSSfKLdn4DMUFqHk3c2/VPosle9scpvdLAHw1j PkPbXe1gIJUqMuZGAitH6Jr+V4kWBV9GPy9mffl+DXxdniIJxLA9v6ZR7bsYaSR3KK ievze+eTSDpNQfTkOlqEBYBHTTEV1Rqjy7mE7aEMdynZI7t4g1amKse8Ag21t5Du1m xOzYMQQukYHvEnXmCZeAJG5nAMhkT4/oM8Dnx8989lAkhgcTdrjZuUup+rGnS/Bt5U Y44idMJhkoF/bgxDJ84ilJ2hovg8SedVrevVawn0U1BEbr0HCUc4lxULcg8++GbuEt R+91ArYhk08YQ== In-Reply-To: Feedback-ID: 92162971:user:proton Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.40.136; envelope-from=jean.christophe.helary@traductaire-libre.org; helo=mail-40136.proton.ch X-Spam_score_int: -30 X-Spam_score: -3.1 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: (-3.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 08 Jan 2024 07:13:00 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:314742 Archived-At: > On Jan 8, 2024, at 12:44, Richard Stallman wrote: >=20 > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] >=20 >> We have infrastructure on non-free systems (github for one), >=20 > Just to help clear up a widespread confusion, the distinction between > free and nonfree is defined for software packages. It is not defined > for services. Since github is a service, not a software package, it > is misleading to describe it as "free" or "nonfree". >=20 > The reason behind this is that the moral issues of how a service > treats users are much more complex than those of how a software > package treats its users. With a software package, if it is free, > users can collaborate to change itt in any way. By contrast, it is > never possible for the users of a service to modify that service. >=20 > We know of various ways a service can treat users unjustly -- we call > them "dis-services". But we don't have a complete list of them. >=20 > We do have a list of them specifically for repo sites. > See https://www.gnu.org/software/repo-criteria-evaluation.html > for evaluations of several. Thank you for the clarification.