From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Reitter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: delete-selection-mode Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:29:09 +0100 Message-ID: References: <004a01c8a1a0$7215cdd0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <878wz9btq8.fsf@jurta.org> <85fxthy4qp.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87hcdxz9zr.fsf_-_@jurta.org> <87ve2cfk9x.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <200804201931.m3KJVO4X008875@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <858wz8ux2w.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <480BA779.2080507@gmail.com> <853apguv0s.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <480BAD5C.4090204@gmail.com> <85prskte96.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <480BB8C0.4020303@gmail.com> <85abjnu5ss.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <480C31B9.6060900@gmail.com> <480CC3AD.1050403@gmail.com> <480CEF39.8040307@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1208870996 19612 80.91.229.12 (22 Apr 2008 13:29:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:29:56 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs- devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 22 15:30:27 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JoIZV-00070R-7b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:30:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JoIYp-0001RI-IS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:29:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JoIYl-0001Qw-Fu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:29:23 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JoIYj-0001QY-Hc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:29:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JoIYj-0001QV-E5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:29:21 -0400 Original-Received: from hs-out-0708.google.com ([64.233.178.240]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JoIYj-0003F4-5u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:29:21 -0400 Original-Received: by hs-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id 55so1207660hsc.10 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 06:29:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=uzk4zhJ5mBSZplBnoRP6lIQ4J1cZ3oTI+eOATU5gkyQ=; b=voI6Vv1vd85XRztlwOE3ECfC095F+v1ME4A1mgWnglSD5LKK6kR0kRPWBtB+Yb110FY89sXywcZxdLULDfSGS0cCtDabuUK33bS+1cvxlR+rkBq/4w9NSEWW1aAtFyz/P80BNfyQ92CCY8ZKNKUfV2dcGG79ZzotwZlpcshEMrA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; b=HFYO6E0KQBIM9/KPnF3dhB55RWdoXa6JV4unQgrQv1p+MnxHqDVJSpLfXOyKe+wlmnjUE6FMvk4f9p5DOSp+lb3EAlxUlG+0dWlDfSgAzwMIA+SczC3Rjr02Vn/MWGKKiMPRifl/zwS3npxhK+0OXdsMVe3zuFHqFmDoeklSYZ0= Original-Received: by 10.100.41.1 with SMTP id o1mr404353ano.10.1208870955972; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 06:29:15 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from scarlett.inf.ed.ac.uk ( [129.215.174.113]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c5sm13587791nfi.31.2008.04.22.06.29.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 22 Apr 2008 06:29:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:95767 Archived-At: On 22 Apr 2008, at 13:20, Robert J. Chassell wrote: > No, the arrow keys without shift do NOT deactivate the region; they > deactivate the HIGHLIGHTING for the region. I am not only able to > call `exchange-point-and-mark' (which I invoke with `C-x C-x'), which > tells me the region continues to exist, but the highlighting > reappears. I've always found this behavior confusing. To keep the mark, that's fine and desirable (to do things like C-x C-x), but re-activating the region seems odd. Jason Rumney wrote: > Here's a possible idea: enable delete-selection-mode by default > but only after shift-selection and mouse-selection. This would be great if highlighting serves as indication to the user. That is, enable delete-selection-mode by default if and only if the region is highlighted. Without the highlighting, you'd introduce an additional invisible mode, which is bad UI design.