From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: chad Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Correspondence between web-pages and Info-pages Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2015 02:20:05 -0800 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.1 \(1993\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1420107630 13944 80.91.229.3 (1 Jan 2015 10:20:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2015 10:20:30 +0000 (UTC) To: Kelly Dean , emacs Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 01 11:20:23 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y6crd-0002FF-W0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Jan 2015 11:20:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48204 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y6crc-0005aV-R0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Jan 2015 05:20:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44487) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y6crY-0005ZM-IW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jan 2015 05:20:17 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y6crT-0005Bu-Gf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jan 2015 05:20:16 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x22c.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22c]:56900) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y6crT-0005BL-9V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jan 2015 05:20:11 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id et14so22642371pad.3 for ; Thu, 01 Jan 2015 02:20:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=9r9Ae7T51yNu70ijqH0aDjRnPIUNW2Hf7NvsEETxEoI=; b=jhgU0gZ+CigeBW4YqnGEWjy/OV2my0NwwFzmuya2Y5aHJuLc4Q570atOli6yJtt+fC xFYcBDBDNauwv1TFOWu/mnjzttGhz4KGAYioNjayovlweNuqD2iMnyrm3o9K+NjZi3qR 4aeU7k31ABEssLRDHsZaFgpEms652bsLs9alT6EI+vNzLPSuWmMJfc7KlgvvAnoZrpTA XMvHN2Gr6HH32kcyTJSh7ZAaDh0/Se3sr2VjDK26T+jzjJWs4EluR7RrleNyRAtdjG4o wxa86S4/30YmNRTcuU0PCVWXlCUXD27FV6SUKcuqAbyfa2N+j/9ej6gcJIFlaFcpPM4t UYCg== X-Received: by 10.70.109.174 with SMTP id ht14mr114344740pdb.74.1420107610326; Thu, 01 Jan 2015 02:20:10 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [10.0.1.6] (75-165-96-95.tukw.qwest.net. [75.165.96.95]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id nx1sm43448092pdb.85.2015.01.01.02.20.08 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 01 Jan 2015 02:20:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1993) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22c X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180916 Archived-At: > On 31 Dec 2014, at 20:24, Kelly Dean wrote: >=20 >>> and using different names for different formats >>> of a page (Info vs. HTML). >>=20 >> No: I specifically don't want to use different names for different = formats. >> Instead I want to use a single name that works both in your = web-browser >> and in Emacs, and that gives the best experience possible in both = cases >> (i.e. in a web-browser it needs to be HTML, and inside Emacs it would >> have to be Info for now and maybe some HTML-Info in some future). >=20 > But in my original message, I proposed a solution that provides = exactly what you're asking for (a single name that works in both web = browsers and Info browsers), by using redirects to the HTML or Info page = (each of which has its own name). I explained how it would work, and I = think it covers all the issues raised in this subthread about how these = names should work. Redirects of this sort wont do what Stefan wants, because once youre looking at one of the target destinations, the links youll have in it will be to the post-redirected sources, which breaks on reference. Put another way, after I go through the redirect, I cant cut-and-paste the URL from the web browser and have it DTRT. ~Chad=