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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:323541 Archived-At: --_000_AS8PR02MB10107574E734ACD8600D548E2969B2AS8PR02MB10107eu_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> I think it makes sense to keep backward-up-list as it is, since it handl= es >> literal strings as it does. But the behaviour is controlled via special = vars >> esape-strings and no-syntax-crossing. If we want similar command as >> beginning-of-string, we have to wrap it and let-bind those variables to >> change how it works. >> >> I am not sure, what is a symmetric function to move cursor to the end of= list? > >If I'm understanding your question correctly: `up-list' moves the >cursor to the end of the list and out of it, the same way >`backward-up-list' moves it to the beginning and up. Indeed, I don't know where my brain was :). I don't use myself functions, I am typically moving my cursor by other means. up-list also treats literal strings the same as backward-up-list, places cursor after the closing parenthesis, so both up-list/end-of-list are useful in different contexts. ________________________________ Fr=E5n: Karthik Chikmagalur Skickat: den 11 september 2024 05:17 Till: arthur miller ; Eli Zaretskii Kopia: emacs-devel@gnu.org =C4mne: Re: Sv: Suggestion: two new commands: beginning-of-list and end-of-= list > I think it makes sense to keep backward-up-list as it is, since it handle= s > literal strings as it does. But the behaviour is controlled via special v= ars > esape-strings and no-syntax-crossing. If we want similar command as > beginning-of-string, we have to wrap it and let-bind those variables to > change how it works. > > I am not sure, what is a symmetric function to move cursor to the end of = list? If I'm understanding your question correctly: `up-list' moves the cursor to the end of the list and out of it, the same way `backward-up-list' moves it to the beginning and up. --_000_AS8PR02MB10107574E734ACD8600D548E2969B2AS8PR02MB10107eu_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>> I think it makes sense to keep backward-up-list as it is, since it= handles
>> literal strings as it does. But the behaviour is controlled via sp= ecial vars
>> esape-strings and no-syntax-crossing. If we want similar command a= s
>> beginning-of-string, we have to wrap it and let-bind those variabl= es to
>> change how it works.
>>
>> I am not sure, what is a symmetric function to move cursor to the = end of list?
>
>If I'm understanding your question correctly: `up-list'  moves the=
>cursor to the end of the list and out of it, the same way
>`backward-up-list' moves it to the beginning and up.

Indeed, I don't know where my brain was :). I don't use myself
functions, I am typically moving my cursor by other means.

up-list also treats literal strings the same as backward-up-list, places
cursor after the closing parenthesis, so both up-list/end-of-list are
useful in different contexts.
Fr=E5n: Karthik Chikmagalur= <karthikchikmagalur@gmail.com>
Skickat: den 11 september 2024 05:17
Till: arthur miller <arthur.miller@live.com>; Eli Zaretskii &l= t;eliz@gnu.org>
Kopia: emacs-devel@gnu.org <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
=C4mne: Re: Sv: Suggestion: two new commands: beginning-of-list and = end-of-list
 
> I think it makes sense to keep backward-up-li= st as it is, since it handles
> literal strings as it does. But the behaviour is controlled via specia= l vars
> esape-strings and no-syntax-crossing. If we want similar command as > beginning-of-string, we have to wrap it and let-bind those variables t= o
> change how it works.
>
> I am not sure, what is a symmetric function to move cursor to the end = of list?

If I'm understanding your question correctly: `up-list'  moves the
cursor to the end of the list and out of it, the same way
`backward-up-list' moves it to the beginning and up.
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