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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:274199 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: > Richard Stallman writes: > >> > By the way, how much work would it be to switch C-x and M-x prefixes to C-space and >> > M-space respectively. >> >> We will not change C-x and M-x in the Emacs defaults, >> nor C-SPC and M-SPC. Those are important commands. >> >> It is ok for a CUA theme to change them. > > This is completely backwards. It is precisely because it is important > that C-x should be changed. Not for defaults, but for some other setup .... Like Vim people made Evil. Maybe Nedit users would prefer Emacs to feel like Nedit? :) Just joking, but it may help if it is easy to switch those two prefixes to something else, so people can experiment easier? I think the biggest obstacle to those comming from Notepad is the use of those few different keys. I personally believe they should learn how Emacs does, not because of the shortcuts itself, but because of concepts behind. Emacs builds on more complex shortcuts than what is "normal" in Windows/Mac worlds, and to use Emacs effectively it is important to learn how Emacs deals with keys.