unofficial mirror of emacs-devel@gnu.org 
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
To: <tomas@tuxteam.de>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Add a configure option for NATIVE_FULL_AOT?
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 23:17:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AM9PR09MB4977E1469667EC9F25AD902B96C09@AM9PR09MB4977.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210819070409.GB13517@tuxteam.de> (tomas@tuxteam.de's message of "Thu, 19 Aug 2021 09:04:09 +0200")

<tomas@tuxteam.de> writes:

> On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 02:57:55AM +0200, Arthur Miller wrote:
>> Yuri D'Elia <wavexx@thregr.org> writes:
>> 
>> > On Wed, Aug 18 2021, Andreas Schwab wrote:
>> >> On Aug 18 2021, Arthur Miller wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Sorry, I picking on it, I know that most of distributions do so, but
>> >>> that is unfortunate practice against the nature of Emacs as application,
>> >>> since Emacs comes with sources as fully modifiable and extendable
>> >>> editor.
>> >>
>> >> Nothing prevents you from reading and modifying the lisp files.
>> Y
>> > I don't want to add anything which hasn't been said by others already,
>> > but just point out that the way that emacs is packaged in debian is
>> > actually pretty nice and convenient for many users, especially in a
>> > multi-tenant setup.
>> I haven't seen a Debian since somewhere around 2001 or something, so I
>> really don't know how they do. But I think that many distros put elisp
>> in /usr/share which is not user modifiable location by default.
>
> Basically, this is the FHS. /usr/share is for architecture-independent,
> mostly immutable [1] stuff. Scripts written in some scripting language.
> Timezone data. Bytecodes. That kind of stuff.

So emacs sources should not be in there. But than as other stuff also
will also not end there, like .elc files if .el files are not there it
almost implied that nothing of Emacs should be in /usr/share :-). So I
guess, as suggested, someone who wishes to modify Emacs sources should
download sources to their home directories and load after so all
headaches avoided :).

> The idea of separating arch-independent and arch-dependent stuff stems
> from old times where disk space was at a premium and you wanted to share
> one /usr via NFS in your heterogeneous network. A kind of deduplication,
> if you like.
>
> But in these days of emulators, cross-compiles and cross-builds it does
> reveal a big potential. With qemu and some luck I can run things meant
> for a Raspberry Pi on my AMD64 laptop [2] and share... my /usr/share,
> which is kind of nifty :-)

Indeed, that is nifty.
 
Thanks for deatiled mail, that was indeed an interesting read!

Cheers!



  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-19 21:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-17  8:53 Add a configure option for NATIVE_FULL_AOT? Ulrich Mueller
2021-08-17 11:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-17 11:56   ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-08-17 12:09     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-17 13:03       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-18 14:44         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-17 12:53     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-17 13:07       ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-17 15:32       ` Yuri D'Elia
2021-08-17 17:01         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-17 17:12           ` Yuri D'Elia
2021-08-17 18:19             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-17 18:33           ` Andreas Schwab
2021-08-17 18:42             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-17 18:46               ` Andreas Schwab
2021-08-17 19:01                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-17 19:05                   ` Andreas Schwab
2021-08-17 19:09                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-17 19:36               ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-08-18  0:48                 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-18  7:29                   ` Andreas Schwab
2021-08-18 15:43                     ` Yuri D'Elia
2021-08-19  0:57                       ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-19  7:04                         ` tomas
2021-08-19 21:17                           ` Arthur Miller [this message]
2021-08-20  7:20                             ` tomas
2021-08-20 12:06                               ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-20 13:13                                 ` tomas
2021-08-20 19:51                                   ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-20 20:06                                     ` tomas
2021-08-20 21:25                                       ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-21  6:44                                         ` tomas
2021-08-21 18:20                                           ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-19  7:13                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-19 21:01                           ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-18  2:23                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-18  4:53                   ` Tassilo Horn
2021-08-18 12:07                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-19  2:34                       ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-19  6:30                         ` tomas
2021-08-19  7:07                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-19  7:17                           ` Andreas Schwab
2021-08-19  7:46                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-19  7:27                           ` tomas
2021-08-19  8:09                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-19 10:05                               ` tomas
2021-08-19 10:51                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-19 12:49                                   ` tomas
2021-08-19 12:52                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-19 13:09                                       ` tomas
2021-08-18  7:04                   ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-08-18 12:12                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-18  7:33                   ` tomas
2021-08-18 12:14                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-18 13:32                       ` tomas
2021-08-18 13:45                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-18 16:22                           ` tomas
2021-08-18 16:26                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-18 16:34                               ` tomas
2021-08-18 16:43                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-18 16:56                                   ` tomas
2021-08-18 17:12                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-18 16:48                             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-18 17:00                               ` tomas
2021-08-18 17:17                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-18 17:34                                   ` tomas
2021-08-18 19:43                                   ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-08-19  1:19                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-19  7:11                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-19  8:01                                         ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-08-18 17:04                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-18 19:44                                 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-08-19  7:17                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-19  7:52                                     ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-08-18 14:11           ` Stefan Kangas
2021-08-18 15:54             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-18 19:13           ` Gunnar Horrigmo
2021-08-18 19:24             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-20  8:22               ` Gunnar Horrigmo
2021-08-20 10:47                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-20 13:06                   ` Gunnar Horrigmo
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-08-17 16:03 Tom Gillespie
2021-08-17 17:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-17 21:52   ` Tom Gillespie
2021-08-18 12:04     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-18  0:33 ` Arthur Miller

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

  List information: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=AM9PR09MB4977E1469667EC9F25AD902B96C09@AM9PR09MB4977.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com \
    --to=arthur.miller@live.com \
    --cc=emacs-devel@gnu.org \
    --cc=tomas@tuxteam.de \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this public inbox

	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git

This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).