From: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
juri@linkov.net, larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#36767: 26.1; request: add more quick keys to the *Help* buffer
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2021 23:48:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <AM9PR09MB4977D322E37D7848355BA9CD96A69@AM9PR09MB4977.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c84abc46-6f64-e30f-674b-d15ad8240135@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Sun, 26 Sep 2021 19:51:28 +0200")
martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at> writes:
>> I agree, but I don't like to see hardcoded *Help* string all over the place. I
>> don't think it will change in near future, if ever, but since I have used this
>> in several places, and plan to suggest some other commands for help buffer, I
>> think we can abstract it even further into something like this:
>
> The help buffer is "*Help*" - look at the code of `help-buffer'.
Yes, I know, I have seen how (help-buffer) works :).
> The
> problem with using `help-buffer' is that it creates *Help* if it didn't
> exist before. Do you really want your function to do that?
Yes, the rationale was that for people who use built-in help, the buffer will be
created anyway. The new object will not be a waste, it will be used next time
buffer is created. I didn't thought that somone would see it as a problem.
I was also affraid that something somewhere, would throw me into
degubber. didn't want to accidentally end up in debugger which woudl be a
nuissance in this context. That felt like a punishment for a user who pressed a
button by accident :-).
But I have tested a bit with 'get-buffer' and it just returns silently nil, and
sent you a suggestion for better astraction anyway, the functions'help-window' and
macro 'with-help-buffer'. I haven't had time to code anything today though,
regarding the patch I'll see if I can sit a moment before I go to bed now.
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2021-09-24 7:16 ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-24 15:31 ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-24 16:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-24 19:36 ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-24 19:39 ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-24 19:57 ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-25 6:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-25 14:41 ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-25 14:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-25 16:22 ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-25 16:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-25 17:08 ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-25 17:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-25 20:15 ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-26 21:52 ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-26 9:11 ` martin rudalics
2021-09-26 16:11 ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-26 16:54 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-26 21:51 ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-26 22:38 ` Drew Adams
2021-09-26 22:46 ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-26 17:51 ` martin rudalics
2021-09-26 21:48 ` Arthur Miller [this message]
2021-09-27 11:07 ` Exec help commands from other buffer (was bug#36767: 26.1; request: add more quick keys to the *Help* buffer) Arthur Miller
2021-09-27 19:59 ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-24 18:34 ` [External] : Re: bug#36767: 26.1; request: add more quick keys to the *Help* buffer Drew Adams
2021-09-24 19:34 ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-24 20:20 ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-24 20:33 ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-25 18:46 ` Juri Linkov
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