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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:274510 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > In such case (code says PD but actually CC0 like), does it > > prevent usage in GNU project without copyright papers? > > It depends on the details of the situation. I can't give you a > general answer, but if you bring up a _specific real case_ we can look > for a solution. I'll make some noise if/when I have something.