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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:272843 Archived-At: Jean-Christophe Helary writes: >> On Aug 23, 2021, at 1:04, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: >> >> "T.V Raman" writes: >> >>> Tim Cross writes: >>> >>> >>> In addition to all you say below re IELM, the nugget of gold that makes >>> it invaluable is its ability to set the eval context buffer while >>> remaining in the ielm buffer, see command bound to C-c b. >> >> Hey, that's great! I'd also been on the fence about the value of IELM >> over the plain old *scratch* buffer, and that's a real advantage. >> >> To muddy the waters further, there's also the "emacs inspector"[1] which >> provides another way of looking at objects and symbols. It doesn't help >> with the original query about watching values change during execution, >> though. > > But that makes me think that, I could possibly load package.el in ielm and run > it from there, couldn't I ? And I'd have all the values right at hand, not quite How will you load a buffer that is not an elisp file? > like edebug I guess, but I could actually check their value inside ielm, right ? > >> [1]: https://github.com/mmontone/emacs-inspector