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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:275026 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Arthur Miller writes: > >> It is already an opt-in option. >> >> (defcustom help-enable-symbol-autoload nil >> "Perform autoload when documentation is not present in autoload object." >> :type 'boolean >> :group 'help >> :version "28.1") > > I guess I should have read the patch. :-) I've now pushed it to Emacs > 28 (with some changes). > > It's really too late in the Emacs 28 cycle to add new features, but > since it defaults to nil, I think it should be OK. It'll default to t > in Emacs 29. Thanks for accepting it!