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From: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Patch: perform autoloading when docs is missing from autoload object
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2021 00:29:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AM9PR09MB49775CAAFF324B97FDE7F0D596DB9@AM9PR09MB4977.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvczp9emlp.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 15 Sep 2021 14:14:32 -0400")

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>> loads libraries when symbol is not loaded. I would actually prefer to just load
>> documentation not the entire library, and I think I can do that, but it is a
>> little bit more involved (have to find source and read the docs), unlike just
>> performing autoloading.
>
> Loading a docstring from the .el file can be tricky/cumbersome (at
> least if we want it to be reliable and 100% correct), but as for loading
> a docstring from a .elc file this is standard (its controlled by
> the variable `byte-compile-dynamic-docstrings`), although currently it
> seems it's not done for autoloads.

Indeed. My thoughts were to read .elc when avialable, and .el only if there is
no .elc file available. I didn't want to write too much about that, I wanted to
get something usable; I see doc loading as an optimization to proposed
patch. If/when I it will just replace autoload-do-load. It is one of those
"would-be-nice-to-have todo items".

Until than, the proposed patch is functionally equivavelnt to what helpful does
in this regard. I would like to hear opinion if I should look at some other
place to implement this, and if the strategy with opt-in/opt-out and extra
defcustom option is OK.



  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-15 22:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-15 13:51 Patch: perform autoloading when docs is missing from autoload object Arthur Miller
2021-09-15 18:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-15 22:29   ` Arthur Miller [this message]
2021-09-17 16:38     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-17 16:56       ` Generic autoloading? [Was Patch: perform autoloading when docs is missing from autoload object] Qiantan Hong
2021-09-17 19:36         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-17 19:51           ` Qiantan Hong
2021-09-17 21:25         ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-17 21:09       ` Patch: perform autoloading when docs is missing from autoload object Arthur Miller
2021-09-18 13:37         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-18 18:25           ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-20 17:02             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-22 16:18               ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-16 12:51 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-17  6:49   ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-17 14:01     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-17 15:04       ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-18 13:21         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-18 16:03           ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-18 17:34             ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-18 17:31           ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-18 17:53             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-18 18:38               ` Arthur Miller

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