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envelope-from=arthur.miller@live.com; helo=EUR05-AM6-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:272789 Archived-At: tomas@tuxteam.de writes: > On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 10:00:25AM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> > Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 08:48:29 +0200 >> > From: >> > >> > That's because DOS got all confused between direntries and inodes, >> > and Microsoft never recovered from that (despite having hired a pro >> > to do NT for them, but I disgress ;-P >> >> I don't see how inodes are relevant to this, > > Note the tongue-in-cheek. But yes, the truth beneath that buffoon is > that Microsoft had to bend a properly designed file system to adapt > to the expectations of a FAT spoiled audience. From there stem lots > of problems. > >> and NTFS does have their equivalent internally. > > I know. This was the pros I was hinting at, Tom Miller, Dave Cutler > et al, scooped up when DEC went supernova. > > The thing with the inode/direntry was more a metaphor for "DOS FAT > is at a too low level of abstraction, and NTFS pays the price for > that". > > Not that important. Just a hysterical nootfote. https://www.itprotoday.com/compute-engines/windows-nt-and-vms-rest-story This quite a regression now, but for anyone interested in history.