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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261334 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >>> But yes, I think it would make a lot of sense to split package.el into the part >>> that manages installation/updates/... and the part that just activates >>> the packages installed and to preload the second part. >>> Also exposing the API of that second part might encourage other package >>> managers to make use of it. >>> >>> >>> Stefan >> It seems you were correct. >> I just added (require 'package) and the startup time went t0 0.29+; > > Thanks for confirming, > > Would you be interested in trying to split package.el into the "core > part" needed for `package-activate-all` (and which we could then > preload), and the rest? > > > Stefan I have arrived to this from slightly different direction: I did some optimization as described in Emacs Doom Faq, and just noticed quickstart file took some time, and looked and it's contents; so I am not really introduced in what package.el does. It will take me some time to get into it. In my own init I do rude directory-files listing to get all directories in Elpa directory and I just add those to the path; but packages can be installed in different places etc; so I will have to take a look at how it is done and what is safe to do/assuem etc. If it is no rush with this, I'll look at it tomorrow and see if I can do it.