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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:262720 Archived-At: TEC writes: > Hello everyone, > > I thought there was a lot of untapped potential in the Emacs user survey > results, so I decided to do my own analysis. > > You may find my work here: https://tecosaur.com/public/EmacsSurveyAnalysis2020.html [1]. > > This analysis was done with the intent of helping the Emacs community > understand itself better, and which aspects of Emacs could benefit the > most from development effort. > > I hope that this may be of some interest :) > > Timothy. > > [1]: You can get a few more formats by changing the file extension to > one of: .pdf, .org, .org.html. Nice work, thanks! At least now we can rule out "windows like" shortcuts are important; since CUA mode to be the least used. Am I reading you correcnt when I interpret that TUI = Emacs in terminal? I am surprised in that case, since I experience Emacs GUI window as a much better terminal, but might be just me :-).