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From: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
To: <tomas@tuxteam.de>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Introducing emacs-webkit and more thoughts on Emacs rendering (was Rethinking the design of xwidgets)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 10:04:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AM0PR06MB657745DFB2D47D1EFB48ACBC96FB0@AM0PR06MB6577.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201124084712.GA27615@tuxteam.de> (tomas@tuxteam.de's message of "Tue, 24 Nov 2020 09:47:12 +0100")

<tomas@tuxteam.de> writes:

> On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 08:50:24AM +0100, Arthur Miller wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> libmpv is just a library to play media files, has nothing to do with
>> javascript. You can check yourself:
>
> Until some idiot embeds javascript into some video format spec
> and said spec becomes indispensable because That New Platform,
> say, Squitch, makes it mandatory (and cheaper videocams follow
> that lead, or something).
>
> Then either libmpv follows or we users begin to whine and moan.
>
> You laugh? 
Of course! :D You always make me laugh, you know that! :-)

> See how PDF embedded javascript.
Just for the record didn't that happened long before v8 came and google
made js lingua franca of web dev?

If I remember even MS implemented window host that was ment for scripting
windows (along VB). I never used it though, no idea how extensive it
was, but it was also before the Node and before JS become ubiquitious in
every application, and before applications were "apps" ... :-)

> Yes, somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but at the same time watching
> with a mixture of fascination and horror how this arena around
> freedom has changed radically the last 20 years. 
 
> Not long ago the "enemy" was secret sauce and closed interfaces.
> These days it's more like cripplingly complex systems and user
> convenience.
( ... )

Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won't come again
And don't speak too soon
For the wheel's still in spin
And there's no tellin' who
That it's namin'
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin'

( ... )
 -- Robert Allen Zimmerman

> Cheers
>  - t

Cheers my man :-)






  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-24  9:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 210+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-12 20:58 Rethinking the design of xwidgets Akira Kyle
2020-10-12 22:18 ` joakim
2020-10-13 16:07   ` Akira Kyle
2020-10-13 19:06     ` joakim
2020-10-14  0:33       ` Akira Kyle
2020-10-13 13:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-13 16:09   ` Akira Kyle
2020-10-13 14:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-13 17:05   ` Akira Kyle
2020-10-13 17:24     ` Qiantan Hong
2020-10-13 18:29       ` Akira Kyle
2020-10-13 18:44         ` Qiantan Hong
2020-10-13 19:17           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-13 20:52           ` Akira Kyle
2020-10-14 14:36             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-14 17:01               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-15 19:55                 ` arthur miller
2020-10-13 18:45         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-13 21:00           ` Akira Kyle
2020-10-14 14:44             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-15  0:35               ` Akira Kyle
2020-10-15  2:07                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-15  3:35                   ` arthur miller
2020-10-15 15:06                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-15 15:20                       ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-15 15:48                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-13 17:55     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-13 18:42       ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-10-13 19:10         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-13 20:37       ` Akira Kyle
2020-10-14 14:33         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-14 15:04           ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-14 15:32             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-15 13:20               ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-17  4:26                 ` Kai Ma
2020-10-17  4:42                   ` Qiantan Hong
2020-11-14  5:40                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-14 16:53             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-14 18:56               ` Aiko Kyle
2020-10-15 12:48                 ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-15 16:25                   ` Akira Kyle
2020-10-15 12:35               ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-16  4:02             ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-16 13:03               ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-16 18:38                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-10-17  4:19                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-17  4:21                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-17  6:30                   ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-17 13:35                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-17 19:15                       ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-19  3:44                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-18  4:17                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-18  4:17                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-18  9:31                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-10-19  3:44                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-19 12:37                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-10-19 13:43                             ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-20  5:13                               ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-20  5:47                                 ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-20 12:58                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-20 13:40                                     ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-21  4:42                                       ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-21  4:46                                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-20  5:14                             ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-20  5:56                               ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-20 10:45                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-10-20 13:49                                   ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-21  4:46                                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-19 13:34                           ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-19 14:04                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-20  5:13                             ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-18 14:41                       ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-19  3:48                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-19 13:48                           ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-16 14:54               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-10-14 18:07           ` Akira Kyle
2020-10-14 18:32             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-14 19:10               ` Akira Kyle
2020-10-13 18:36     ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-10-13 18:38       ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-10-13 21:20       ` Aiko Kyle
2020-10-14  0:12         ` Corwin Brust
2020-10-14 19:16           ` Akira Kyle
2020-10-14  7:32         ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-10-14 15:02           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-14 16:35             ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-10-14 19:22               ` Akira Kyle
2020-10-14 21:29                 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-10-16  4:02                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-16 13:09                   ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-14 19:24     ` Mingde (Matthew) Zeng
2020-10-14 21:46       ` Akira Kyle
2020-10-15  5:17         ` Mingde (Matthew) Zeng
2020-10-14  4:38 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-14  6:36   ` Akira Kyle
2020-11-22  3:35 ` Introducing emacs-webkit and more thoughts on Emacs rendering (was Rethinking the design of xwidgets) Akira Kyle
2020-11-22 12:01   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-22 12:04   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-22 12:18     ` tomas
2020-11-22 12:57       ` Jean Louis
2020-11-22 16:24         ` tomas
2020-11-22 17:18           ` Jean Louis
2020-11-22 17:48             ` tomas
2020-11-22 18:40             ` Akira Kyle
2020-11-22 19:58               ` Jean Louis
2020-11-22 20:29                 ` Akira Kyle
2020-11-22 20:38                   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-22 15:27     ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-22 12:50   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-22 18:33     ` Akira Kyle
2020-11-22 18:04   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22 18:46     ` Akira Kyle
2020-11-22 21:20       ` Vasilij Schneidermann
2020-11-22 22:04         ` Akira Kyle
2020-11-22 18:29   ` T.V Raman
2020-11-22 18:53     ` Akira Kyle
2020-11-22 19:35       ` T.V Raman
2020-11-22 20:26         ` Akira Kyle
2020-11-23  0:46           ` T.V Raman
2020-11-23  3:44             ` Akira Kyle
2020-11-23  3:01       ` T.V Raman
2020-11-23  3:47         ` Akira Kyle
2020-11-23 16:29           ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2020-11-23  9:39   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-11-23 13:26     ` joakim
2020-11-24  6:21       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-11-23 14:59     ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-23 23:47       ` Alan Third
2020-11-24  3:58         ` Akira Kyle
2020-11-24  8:06         ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-24  5:51       ` Richard Stallman
2020-11-24  6:24         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-11-26  4:49           ` Richard Stallman
2020-11-26  5:25             ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-26  8:27               ` tomas
2020-11-26 14:55                 ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-26 19:11                 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-11-26 19:34                   ` arthur miller
2020-11-27  8:04                     ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-11-27  8:44                       ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-27 13:35                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-11-27 19:22                       ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-27 20:01                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-27 21:22                           ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-27 20:07                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-27 21:09                           ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-27 21:35                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-27 23:23                               ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-28  0:28                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-28  8:48                                   ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-27 21:22                           ` Akira Kyle
2020-11-28  7:31                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-28  5:55                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-11-28  8:50                           ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-29  5:24               ` Richard Stallman
2020-11-24  7:50         ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-24  8:47           ` tomas
2020-11-24  9:04             ` Arthur Miller [this message]
2020-11-25  5:38               ` Richard Stallman
2020-11-25  8:46                 ` tomas
2020-11-25 15:26                 ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-25 16:15                   ` Eric S Fraga
2020-11-24 15:43             ` T.V Raman
2020-11-25  5:38             ` Richard Stallman
2020-11-25  8:54               ` tomas
2020-11-24  6:23       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-11-24  3:33     ` Akira Kyle
2020-11-24  6:27       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-11-25  1:36         ` Akira Kyle
2020-11-25 15:11           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-27 20:56             ` Akira Kyle
2020-11-28  8:38               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-28  8:57                 ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-28  9:19                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-29  0:22                     ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-29  1:29                 ` Akira Kyle
2020-11-29  8:22                   ` martin rudalics
2020-11-29 19:01                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-30  3:54                     ` Akira Kyle
2020-11-30 15:39                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-30 17:03                         ` Akira Kyle
2020-11-30 18:11                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-30 18:30                             ` Akira Kyle
2020-12-01  7:44                           ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-03  0:24                             ` Akira Kyle
2020-12-03  8:07                               ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-03 20:34                                 ` Arthur Miller
2020-12-03 20:53                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-01  8:01                       ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-01 15:36                         ` Arthur Miller
2020-12-01 16:48                           ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-01 15:58                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-01 17:33                           ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-01 19:41                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-02 20:37                               ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-03 14:39                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-03 21:02                                   ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-04  7:48                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-03  0:37                         ` Akira Kyle
2020-12-03  8:15                           ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-03 15:13                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-03 21:15                               ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-04  8:00                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-30  9:05                     ` martin rudalics
2020-11-30 16:10                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-23 22:12   ` Alexander Adolf
2020-11-24  1:30     ` T.V Raman
2020-11-24  8:13       ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-24  3:51     ` Akira Kyle
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2020-12-02  2:58 arthur miller

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