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From: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>,
	"emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bug#30854: 27.0.50; Speeding up package.el startup
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 21:58:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AM0PR06MB657720C43E7416B2E3AF0BAD96C00@AM0PR06MB6577.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv1rfjaqcx.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 21 Dec 2020 15:03:46 -0500")

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> I don't see why someone would not want to use quickstart?  So as a
>> thought: why not make quickstart normal mode how package loading works?
>
> Yes, I think we should.  But for that we need to make sure the
> quickstart file is properly recreated every time it's needed.
>
> There might also be situations where that can't be done, tho: e.g. if
> `package-directory-list` includes a directory maintained by the
> sysadmin, then we won't be told when packages get
> installed/removed/upgraded in that directory.  To handle such a case
> we'd have to either disable quickstart altogether or add some kind of
> "freshness" check at startup before using the quickstart file.

Aha; I hope I understand correct:

Sysadmin can install packages for many users to share them, users have
read priviledge, not write of course. Sysadmin would install/uninstall
packages and a user would need to read autoloads.el from that shared
system dirctory, and then maybe even from it's own?

Could something like "site-autoloads.el" do? Similar to how
site-start.el works?

That file would be read only of course, and could be loaded before
user's autoloads are loaded. That way if user install same package but
different versions, user's would take precedence since it would override
site-autoloads. It would still be just two files to check for and
load. And hopefully path to it could be set in site-start.el or
elsewhere in setup so Emacs does not need to search entire load path to
find it?



  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-21 20:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-18 10:56 bug#30854: 27.0.50; Speeding up package.el startup arthur.miller
2020-12-18 15:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-18 16:05   ` arthur.miller
2020-12-18 16:37     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-18 22:58       ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-12-18 23:26         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-19 16:34       ` arthur.miller
2020-12-19 17:59         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-19 18:23           ` Stefan Kangas
2020-12-19 20:56             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-20  2:47               ` Pankaj Jangid
2020-12-20 14:23               ` Arthur Miller
2020-12-20 14:52                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-20 15:13                   ` Arthur Miller
2020-12-20 17:16                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-20 22:23                       ` arthur miller
2020-12-20 23:35                       ` arthur miller
2020-12-20 23:44                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-20 23:46                           ` arthur miller
2020-12-21 16:32                           ` Arthur Miller
2020-12-21 17:11                             ` Stefan Kangas
2020-12-21 17:32                               ` Arthur Miller
2020-12-21 18:16                                 ` Arthur Miller
2020-12-21 18:58                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-21 19:51                                     ` Arthur Miller
2020-12-21 18:31                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-21 19:45                                   ` Arthur Miller
2020-12-21 20:03                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-21 20:58                                       ` Arthur Miller [this message]
2020-12-21 22:14                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-21 23:15                                           ` Arthur Miller
2020-12-22  3:35                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-22 11:03                                               ` Arthur Miller
2020-12-22 14:50                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-22 16:55                                                   ` Arthur Miller
2020-12-22 17:20                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-22 18:24                                                       ` Arthur Miller
2020-12-22 19:44                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-22 20:45                                                           ` Arthur Miller
2020-12-20 23:45                       ` arthur miller
2020-12-19 21:12             ` arthur miller
2020-12-19 21:16             ` arthur miller

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