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([2620:10d:c090:180::1:2f5e]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 64sm8943430pff.101.2019.02.15.16.35.00 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 15 Feb 2019 16:35:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20190215183317.45d559a6@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::434 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:233406 Archived-At: On February 15, 2019 3:33:17 PM PST, "Perry E=2E Metzger" wrote: >Look, the old syntax was replaced by the Unix people in the early >1980s because it was garbage=2E Everyone uses the new syntax, and >everyone is used to it=2E Sure, new doesn't always mean better, but in >this case, yes, the newer regex syntax is a whole lot better, not to >mention that it's what everyone on earth is used to=2E I started using Emacs less than 4 years ago (so I could probably consider = myself a 'modern user'), and I honestly find the new syntax much more confu= sing=2E I have never used the flags in those programs to get the new syntax= , and I have seen those flags in a shrinking minority of shell scripts=2E I= find the new syntax much more unreadable and arcane than the original, alt= hough the original is difficult by itself=2E I don't oppose adding more syntaxes, but I will never willingly use the ne= w format personally=2E --=20 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E