From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: chad Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: About the web pages repository Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 11:38:54 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87ehe5wlgb.fsf@zigzag.favinet> <877gjw21mv.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87txn0uugu.fsf@zigzag.favinet> <03d2tn7n6x.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1366569548 22589 80.91.229.3 (21 Apr 2013 18:39:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 18:39:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "emacs-devel@gnu.org Development" To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 21 20:39:13 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UTzAM-000676-Py for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 20:39:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55350 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UTzAM-0005QN-Eq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 14:39:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55965) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UTzAE-0005N2-Gj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 14:39:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UTzAA-0006sj-7l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 14:39:02 -0400 Original-Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-4.mit.edu ([18.9.25.15]:55264) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UTzA3-0006pb-GN; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 14:38:51 -0400 X-AuditID: 1209190f-b7f256d000005616-c6-5174323b392b Original-Received: from mailhub-auth-2.mit.edu ( [18.7.62.36]) by dmz-mailsec-scanner-4.mit.edu (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 1C.78.22038.B3234715; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 14:38:51 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (OUTGOING-AUTH-1.MIT.EDU [18.9.28.11]) by mailhub-auth-2.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id r3LIco1C017488; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 14:38:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [10.0.1.10] (c-98-247-148-125.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [98.247.148.125]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as yandros@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.12.4) with ESMTP id r3LIclkM029077 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Sun, 21 Apr 2013 14:38:49 -0400 In-Reply-To: <03d2tn7n6x.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrEIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUixG6nomttVBJo0NnFb/F4wRNWi96FJ5kd mDzappkFMEZx2aSk5mSWpRbp2yVwZXQ8WMhWsJerYv174QbGpRxdjJwcEgImEjdX3GSEsMUk Ltxbz9bFyMUhJLCPUWLO2lWMEM5GRokt926xQzjHmSRWzelhB2lhFtCSuPHvJROIzSugJ3Ht 21ewuLCAtsTpl0dYuxg5ONgEZIDGaoCEOQX0JaYd7WMGsVkEVCXu77nECjHGWuJn21s2CFte YvvbOcwQI60kTq9eB3XEJSaJW50LwXaJCMhJ/L34igXibFmJ18/fsExgFJyF5KRZSE6ahWTu AkbmVYyyKblVurmJmTnFqcm6xcmJeXmpRbomermZJXqpKaWbGEFByynJv4Px20GlQ4wCHIxK PLwFP4oChVgTy4orcw8xSnIwKYnyHlMtCRTiS8pPqcxILM6ILyrNSS0+xCjBwawkwuvDBpTj TUmsrEotyodJSXOwKInzXk256S8kkJ5YkpqdmlqQWgSTleHgUJLgtTIEahQsSk1PrUjLzClB SDNxcIIM5wEaPssAZHhxQWJucWY6RP4Uo6KUOC8vSLMASCKjNA+uF5ZUXjGKA70izCsHUsUD TEhw3a+ABjMBDf7MXQgyuCQRISXVwGh1j2OStW1LWVLdpK7WzzoHtty67f8ywnHuDs6kfDWb oHdiRdkf1po/n3JP9oU92/dY/WP7Zs+y1mIMZlrvG/6B64Zmts37xc9e7Zab+fTZxxcna/3k Z9S+cTf6aP5zh9jmYq+cbXdnrU8NqjYKmHbW7vKq27OuuNzqb5j4sUD8jGbmS56H X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 18.9.25.15 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:159091 Archived-At: On 21 Apr 2013, at 11:28, Glenn Morris wrote: > chad wrote: > >> Is there data to support the idea that Savannah would like to *move >> to* (not *add*) some DVCS for this purpose? > > RTFL: Thank you; I was having trouble finding TFL. > [...] What's desirable is to support git (or other things -- not > everyone likes git, really) *as well as* cvs. While this might seem obvious in the "..and I'd like a pony" sense, it's not obvious to me that people want to continue dealing with the aches and pains of maintaining CVS repositories. To quote the message to which I was replying: On 21 Apr 2013, at 02:02, Thien-Thi Nguyen wrote: > > The argument that the sysadmins don't have time actually supports this > effort -- i imagine (w/o data except for personal interactions re the > projects i admin) a non-trivial portion of the time-consuming tasks is > spent on fixing CVS-related weirdness. It's empathy for the sysadmins > that spurs me to speak up, actually -- i remember my experiences having > to admin CVS repos (for others) w/ distinct distaste. Max unfun. This suggests a potential world in which `as well as cvs' isn't necessarily desired (which matches my own experience). Thanks for the pointer, though; it's very helpful. (bug-gnulib? huh.) ~Chad