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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249453 Archived-At: As Eli said, signing the assignment doesn=E2=80=99t say anything about your s= tance legally. How do you interpret it personally is your freedom. But does b= uying proprietary software indicate your support of it? I doubt it. Likewise= submitting patches shouldn=E2=80=99t be interpreted as a personal stance su= pporting either FSF or free software. Sincerely, Yuan > =E5=9C=A8 2020=E5=B9=B45=E6=9C=889=E6=97=A5=EF=BC=8C=E4=B8=8A=E5=8D=8810:3= 6=EF=BC=8C=EC=A1=B0=EC=84=B1=EB=B9=88 =E5=86=99=E9=81= =93=EF=BC=9A >=20 > =EF=BB=BF >> 2020. 5. 9. =EC=98=A4=ED=9B=84 10:52, Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora =EC=9E=91=EC=84=B1: >>=20 >> =EF=BB=BFOn Sat, May 9, 2020 at 2:35 PM Alfred M. Szmidt wr= ote: >>>> Finally, above practical aspects, assigning copyright is declaring >>>> support for an idea larger than the FSF itself. It's a political >>>> declaration. >>> Could someone officially confirm or deny the above paragraph? >>> It is very much false. By assigning your copyright to the FSF you do >>> just that and nothing else, it says nothing about what values you hold >>> or wish to endorse. >>=20 >> I don't resist asking: does relinquishing copyright of a work to >> the "Free Software Foundation" a "nonprofit with a worldwide >> mission to promote computer user freedom" really say nothing >> about what values one wishes to endorse? >=20 > Well, to improve Emacs maybe? I have pretty strong (negative) arguments ab= out the FSF, but I found out I had to sign the papers so I signed it. I hope= it doesn=E2=80=99t get interpreted this way... >=20 >> Maybe. =C2=AF\_(=E3=83=84)_/=C2=AF I'm happy to clarify that it did, _for= me_, and >> that's how I meant it. No idea why others did or didn't do that. >>=20 >> Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora >>=20 >=20