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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273552 Archived-At: > On Aug 28, 2021, at 6:04 AM, Stefan Monnier = wrote: >=20 > Reading this discussion made me realize why I'm rooting for SourceHut: > it's the only such tool I've seen whose goals align exactly with ours. > Both philosophically (most other tools just happen to be Free Software > and but are more philosophically aligned with Open Source) and > technically (it aims for first class email support while providing as > much as possible of the shiny web features of other systems). Completely agree. >=20 > So at this stage, I personally don't see much point looking for other > tools. Instead I'm just wondering how to get us to use SourceHut > (i.e. how to resolve the problems that might stand in the way, such as > getting an instance up and running on GNU machines, starting to use it > "on the side" to see in practice what issues we'll need > fixed/improved/added before we can really switch, etc...). >=20 > An obvious first issue is the one seen in Theodor's example: > = https://lists.sr.ht/~theo/public-inbox/%3Cm1r1edold3.fsf%40Frende-MacBook.= lan%3E > where the rendering of this email in the web interface completely = hides > the actual patch being sent. >=20 Maybe we could contact them and discuss the potential to move. They = probably would be very happy to assist us, since Emacs can be an = advertisement and testimony for their product. Yuan=