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From: Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com>
To: Ben Key <bkey76@gmail.com>
Cc: Emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Modify menu-bar help
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 10:58:52 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTin9TX1ZviY=eif+9KDLcv5NcQzXO3hxbhwuxay+@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimoMVm=xh6D2psMHX6FMe-45qcmQDg+ZyjGQFqd@mail.gmail.com>

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On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Ben Key <bkey76@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> If we do document this issue somewhere we should note that GTK is not the
> only environment in which this is an issue.  I tried using the code provided
> by Tim Cross on the Nextstep build of Emacs 24 and had the same problem.
>
> Just to clarify my thoughts re: reporting this as a 'bug' for the emacs
manual. Iff the reason this won't work is due to a deliberate design
decision in the toolkit, then I think this limitation should be mentioned in
the manual - even if its just a footnote indicating that under some GUI
toolkits, you canot create top-level menu actions that are not sub-menus
i.e. a button. From Jan's post, my impression was that this behavior is not
a bug, but rather a feature of the GTK design i.e. deliberate.

However, I think this still needs more work for confirmation. I plan to
build with the old lucid toolkit and see if it works. If it does, then it
gives mroe evidence that this is the case. I will also try and find
confirmation in the GTK+ manual.

I'm a bit surprised that the same problem seems to occur under the NextStep
OS - while I'm not expert here and could have things confused, it looked to
me like the ns version added menu 'buttons' when I scanned the menu-bar.el
file.

I will try to confirm things further and substantiate that this is a GTK+
limitation (not questioning Jan's post, just feel we should verify
carefully) and if appropriate, will log a bug report suggesting the manual
is updated to reference toolkit limitations.

Any objections or suggestions?

Tim

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-25 23:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-25 20:33 Modify menu-bar help Ben Key
2011-02-25 23:58 ` Tim Cross [this message]
2011-02-26  1:04   ` Tim Cross
2011-02-26 10:21     ` Jan Djärv
2011-02-26 10:22   ` Jan Djärv
2011-02-26 22:27     ` Tim Cross
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-02-24 23:16 Tim Cross
2011-02-25  0:52 ` Drew Adams
2011-02-25  5:14   ` Tim Cross
2011-02-25  7:15     ` Drew Adams
2011-02-25  9:31       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-02-25  9:30     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-02-25 10:03     ` Jan Djärv
2011-02-25 14:49       ` Tim Cross
2011-02-25 15:29         ` Drew Adams
2011-02-25 15:31         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-02-25 15:38           ` Drew Adams
2011-02-25 15:54             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-02-25 17:08               ` Jan Djärv
2011-02-25 17:22                 ` Drew Adams
2011-02-25  9:27   ` Eli Zaretskii

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