From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: TROLL is a HATE terminology Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 20:17:18 +0100 Message-ID: References: <4D066E0C.3060301@online.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1292269527 13691 80.91.229.12 (13 Dec 2010 19:45:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 19:45:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?UTF-8?Q?Andreas_R=C3=B6hler?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 13 20:45:23 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PSEKo-0008BA-J7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 20:45:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49419 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PSEKn-0007Pg-Qg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 14:45:21 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=41824 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PSEJp-0006jP-6Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 14:44:23 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PSEJj-0000lv-Hq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 14:44:21 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ew0-f43.google.com ([209.85.215.43]:60058) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PSEJj-0000ld-8T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 14:44:15 -0500 Original-Received: by ewy22 with SMTP id 22so4035243ewy.30 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 11:44:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=gT/rpDJc94i51nZAd3aKe/i6PBIIkNnI+Wq95K+fjCo=; b=k7riPHXEGDDRQDa3l9vf2Ra3EERm+bzW4g34TOvJ/xnZqfwT3rawJtmfRUygF37XIo P+K+h/Z57omPPx/RmLVc7XJUQaOnevzPU/E0e397XPXpf4NnhuS0JMhDrteUlQyQLIg0 mLABOdvvvCKWSdqnnOJABkgHkvhzd+XnB1/GE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QIOBojwfE5i/Vvq1O5hs8bA+mKpAESJpCvQnXhD+oZoEWjSvUyfCGxAQn1mb+WmPQz /o5nwrFh4Rjip5sC0Df6bhyzV/AdQ58PJEfdBVJnF5xqiPtUQLGyatHUeEh2TsU5IkBr xP4+QiLyoV3we7UTslP1fQkAYeuzwr+UELg3g= Original-Received: by 10.213.9.66 with SMTP id k2mr1891666ebk.84.1292268574037; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 11:29:34 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.213.29.8 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 11:17:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D066E0C.3060301@online.de> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:133654 Archived-At: On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Andreas R=C3=B6hler wrote: > Am 12.12.2010 21:57, schrieb Fren Zeee: >> >> Troll is a hate terminology. Dont ever use it ... >> >> just get it. >> >> Franz Xe >> > > Hi Franz, > > be confident, the public will able to read and consider arguments. > Accusing someone of being this or that is not an argument, "Troll" certai= nly > is not an argument. > > Let's calm down and consider whats at stake. > Please don't take the path extending "hate laws". > > Hate is just the backside of love. > You must forbid all mankind to get rid of it. Hi Franz, Some words from me too. (And I have never used a kill file. I am too curious for that. I would guess those using rough language would rather try to avoid sending to me ;-) Even though some replies on this list may be frustrating it is mostly because of misunderstandings. After reading this list for a long time I did not even know what the word "troll" meant on internet. I had to look it up when I first saw it being used in a group discussing open source software. I was surprised both by the unkind attitude and the lack of knowledge of the subject discussed in those using the word "troll". But please be assured that people here on this list tries to do their best (but we sometimes fail, we are human ;-)