* Re: [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r103590: Convert some names in texinfo files to UTF-8.
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@ 2011-03-08 13:14 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-08 17:41 ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-08 18:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2011-03-08 13:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: Emacs developers
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 09:59, Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> wrote:
> Convert some names in texinfo files to UTF-8.
This brings me grief on Windows, because there aren't that many
texinfo binary distributions out there for Windows.
makeinfo 4.8, which is very stable, does not grok UTF-8:
makeinfo --force --enable-encoding -I. emacs.texi
emacs.texi:33: warning: unrecognized encoding name `UTF-8'.
and makeinfo 4.13a (the current one at GnuWin32) is buggy as hell and
just crashes.
ISTR Eli's said that he builds his own texinfo,but that's a bit of overkill...
Juanma
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* Re: [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r103590: Convert some names in texinfo files to UTF-8.
2011-03-08 13:14 ` [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r103590: Convert some names in texinfo files to UTF-8 Juanma Barranquero
@ 2011-03-08 17:41 ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-08 18:27 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-08 18:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Glenn Morris @ 2011-03-08 17:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Juanma Barranquero; +Cc: Emacs developers
Juanma Barranquero wrote:
> This brings me grief on Windows, because there aren't that many
> texinfo binary distributions out there for Windows.
Oh dear. The suggestion came from an MS Windows user, BTW.
http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3501
Most messages are pointless until
http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3501#70
Yes, of course, we should now use utf-8 for that Texinfo file and
pass --enable-encoding to makeinfo.
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* Re: [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r103590: Convert some names in texinfo files to UTF-8.
2011-03-08 17:41 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2011-03-08 18:27 ` Juanma Barranquero
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From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2011-03-08 18:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: Emacs developers
> Oh dear. The suggestion came from an MS Windows user, BTW.
I'd sure like to know what version of texinfo he's using and were did he get it.
> http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3501#70
>
> Yes, of course, we should now use utf-8 for that Texinfo file and
> pass --enable-encoding to makeinfo.
Apparently, there are dissenting opinions. Count mine, too, unless a
suitable binary tarball for Windows can be found somewhere...
Juanma
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* Re: [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r103590: Convert some names in texinfo files to UTF-8.
2011-03-08 13:14 ` [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r103590: Convert some names in texinfo files to UTF-8 Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-08 17:41 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2011-03-08 18:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2011-03-08 18:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Juanma Barranquero; +Cc: emacs-devel
> From: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 14:14:26 +0100
> Cc: Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
>
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 09:59, Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> wrote:
>
> > Convert some names in texinfo files to UTF-8.
>
> This brings me grief on Windows, because there aren't that many
> texinfo binary distributions out there for Windows.
>
> makeinfo 4.8, which is very stable, does not grok UTF-8:
>
> makeinfo --force --enable-encoding -I. emacs.texi
> emacs.texi:33: warning: unrecognized encoding name `UTF-8'.
>
> and makeinfo 4.13a (the current one at GnuWin32) is buggy as hell and
> just crashes.
>
> ISTR Eli's said that he builds his own texinfo,but that's a bit of overkill...
No, I use the same v4.8 you do, so it doesn't work for me either.
I think we should just revert this change, because it will cause grief
to TeX as well, AFAIK. It is a well known (and unfortunate) fact that
Texinfo doesn't lend itself well to i18n.
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