From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Hl-line and visual-line Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 00:37:26 +0200 Message-ID: References: <45790724-63FC-4B80-A70D-8CD49A92FEE3@gmail.com> <83r5l2o7fx.fsf@gnu.org> <47101594-5A7C-4FF1-8C58-C77AF33F35F2@gmai0l.com> <83ljbanytd.fsf@gnu.org> <4D3EC595-2FF1-42BC-8DB3-26F3A91501D4@gmail.com> <83fx1hnp1u.fsf@gnu.org> <83aarpndk9.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1274740691 26738 80.91.229.12 (24 May 2010 22:38:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 22:38:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: david.reitter@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 25 00:38:09 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OGgHc-0004zK-UR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 May 2010 00:38:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43857 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OGgHc-0005UV-5g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 May 2010 18:38:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=54877 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OGgHQ-0005Pw-Bv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 May 2010 18:37:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OGgHL-0001dn-8f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 May 2010 18:37:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-gx0-f220.google.com ([209.85.217.220]:55293) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OGgHL-0001di-4c; Mon, 24 May 2010 18:37:47 -0400 Original-Received: by gxk20 with SMTP id 20so1964366gxk.12 for ; Mon, 24 May 2010 15:37:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=oGlF4cek9RfRQ/7fuV5Z8t6E/WPa+7vZapfgQqDom6M=; b=ajrmzugFkG1tV0fRmJQCxkY578DT7KptClgIWSAz6UZKGkat5JgEqZW+v60qT4fHlp mjp6+Xne/rZAeMmZwCMpxhI0JImprTEBnCNRCH7bl+YZ8ZvUZ784rON1neIt1HLvYfL+ DeA5Uv6RsnFXk/VXosZNQkDPesBYvkBoEi9XM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LaopygZoc3LB6oyK9hH2StKVNBQfEzgo+ViULQ21Pn7H/Q0BljX+/LmNLENUxnyicN q5Leow9f3e1/g6thbTnpEjllxY0VCcq3ftbrfFSsE2Ag5m8frRq9SEwTdcaEWOlkpVUe jasyep6Twd6q6Y/6JeexVSha8gc0R8fD1m+/k= Original-Received: by 10.101.28.39 with SMTP id f39mr7390356anj.69.1274740666295; Mon, 24 May 2010 15:37:46 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.100.177.20 with HTTP; Mon, 24 May 2010 15:37:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83aarpndk9.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:125216 Archived-At: On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Lennart Borgman >> Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 21:06:11 +0200 >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii , David Reitter , emacs-devel@gnu.org >> >> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Stefan Monnier >> wrote: >> >> IOW, we need to introduce a new subroutine (that would produce such a >> >> list), not change beginning/end-of-visual-line. =C2=A0Do you agree? >> > >> > Yes. >> >> >> Could we please have `point-at-bovl' and `point-at-eovl' (or the >> longer versions `visual-line-beginning-position' etc)? > > I think you have them already: you these are beginning-of-visual-line > and end-of-visual-line. =C2=A0If these don't fit the bill, please tell wh= at > is your definition of `bovl' and `eovl'. I mean the same difference as between beginning-of-line and line-beginning-position (point-at-bol). (I prefer the shorter versions here. They are easier to read and easy to understand.) The first one moves point, but the second does not.