From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Andrew W. Nosenko" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs, QT and Cairo Was: Re: Efforts to attract more users? Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 13:24:14 +0300 Message-ID: References: <4C400D10.1080808@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1279276615 28984 80.91.229.12 (16 Jul 2010 10:36:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:36:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: fplemma@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, lennart.borgman@gmail.com, Stephen Eilert , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Bernardo Barros , joakim@verona.se, acm@muc.de, "Stephen J. Turnbull" , miles@gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, John Yates To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 16 12:36:50 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZiHi-0004p6-8C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 12:36:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37763 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OZiHh-0006YN-DP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 06:36:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=49634 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OZiF4-0004SX-07 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 06:34:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZi5Y-0001qS-7I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 06:24:17 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wy0-f169.google.com ([74.125.82.169]:41453) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZi5Y-0001qE-1Z; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 06:24:16 -0400 Original-Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so1860065wyj.0 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 03:24:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZmQUBqgkhezItzW8gzKnjj/8HWXZP+rOxC/JQXKO5yI=; b=aLLz2uBIftp3kSJ2ReSB6NDHwM68cbKBltMS0+NXA+5BKKpCuzbG4j+saYUEjKaK9I /BFVyVoks6aaJQijk7npwc1J+K6X8zFzX9AZQcDtGX9CufozvfyECFnPcC4Nykl72YeT ts3okEMIoUwmFRfMZTy2AQlXUi+q67eIYhyE4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=q96YexlDU/z/N15QEagUAvY8zyoPCHJxee20q5XBGgM7Sa5fgokjsJSzr9W2xvYjiB kNxvDEqsOsbrrhfRDwCUldbBdxCky+DgQNOC6JAFEvpz6LsBldOBBU3PXVDAdBHStpWv 7hRHogJW8ms0Cb6Bw8os8mrAU7KFk921cDJCs= Original-Received: by 10.227.158.11 with SMTP id d11mr748314wbx.67.1279275854279; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 03:24:14 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.216.67.66 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 03:24:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C400D10.1080808@swipnet.se> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:127423 Archived-At: On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:41, Jan Dj=E4rv wrote: > > > Andrew W. Nosenko skrev 2010-07-16 01.15: >> >> Yet another example: scrollbars. =A0I remember discussions where better >> to place them by default. =A0But I don't remember anyone who pointed >> that position of scrollbars controlled by and desktop environment and >> gtkrc (GTK+ semi-analog of xrdb). =A0Where scrollbar should be? =A0-- >> there where the rest of of desktop places it and controlled from the >> place where the rest of desktop controlled. =A0Of course it may and >> should be able to be customized on per-application basis and Emacs >> here far ahead of the rest. =A0But... =A0But why speaking about scrollba= r >> on the right vs. scrollbar on the left [by default] no one mentioned >> third possibility: the desktop default setting? > > AFAIK, there is no desktop setting for scroll bar placements in GNOME, or= by > theme. Exists since GTK+ 2.10 http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/unstable/GtkSettings.html#GtkSetting= s--gtk-scrolled-window-placement For set it by hand, for example, for place vertical scrollbar to the left by default you may add following line to your ~/.gtkrc-2.0 gtk-scrolled-window-placement =3D top-right --=20 Andrew W. Nosenko