From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Menu entry for describe-package? Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 03:19:47 +0200 Message-ID: References: <19162_1277076158_ZZh013Uew0JKU.00_1277076156.6852.1.camel@steed.robot-madness> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1277083217 25009 80.91.229.12 (21 Jun 2010 01:20:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 01:20:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jan Moringen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 21 03:20:15 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OQVgN-0003CL-BQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Jun 2010 03:20:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43194 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OQVgM-0005uv-N4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2010 21:20:14 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=51477 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OQVgH-0005uq-KO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2010 21:20:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OQVgG-0006tI-5F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2010 21:20:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-gy0-f169.google.com ([209.85.160.169]:58924) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OQVgG-0006tD-0n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2010 21:20:08 -0400 Original-Received: by gyg4 with SMTP id 4so2477948gyg.0 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2010 18:20:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UluSR9HNN/nBK8lq4ocz3/U0qLRu7NPS4SXwqWTfzMc=; b=CQKZXcbRxDvIueLT3c+GczooFMlXjzpU8LKJBjYLz+uqoNcJCLZaGoeyXiEsQ5Mc3S wke3HJ4UTpqb41vKMXOp+4A5Y85BpcfZg+eaOwS0inYjHBsN2+M73oryeZXgYBq77sIY kdR6HJheIZ+XvwQ7FkiVqgXeJy41WTpFGbb9c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AdR1oWgYJwxC2j0HUhd8rnkOZbuaDBlwLAJbxLfp2T32l0ik3dDKIEpe7lfdpsLVdj /J8XCpRBpoZoBJAxbhoE6xo6BBKzBl5pIxJqDgGDwZxzZk8eSeiP2Jqc2sHyB+u/imZy 7veYLxHETibF3DwJFP3KQTYp9ciIEXe8OiMAs= Original-Received: by 10.100.244.32 with SMTP id r32mr3214927anh.28.1277083207281; Sun, 20 Jun 2010 18:20:07 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.100.154.15 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Jun 2010 18:19:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <19162_1277076158_ZZh013Uew0JKU.00_1277076156.6852.1.camel@steed.robot-madness> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:126288 Archived-At: On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 1:22 AM, Jan Moringen wrote: > > More generally, does anyone else find it potentially confusing (at least > for new users) to have the following menu entries? > > Options > Manage Emacs Packages -> `package-list-packages' > > Help > Find Emacs Packages =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-> `finder-by-keyword' > Help > External Packages =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-> `menu-bar-help-ext= ra-packages' > > I think, the main source of potential confusion is the inconsistent use > of the term "package". Maybe the meaning of "package" in the "Help" menu > could also be conveyed by something more vague like "Find Emacs-related > software"? I think external and internal packages should be distinguished clearly in the menus. Why not use these words in the menu entries?