From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Frame ordering Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:19:12 +0200 Message-ID: References: <8F18E079-3351-4398-B76B-6CF9169ACE9E@gmail.com> <4C123889.5060801@gmx.at> <597D28BE-ABE3-4FFF-84B1-1FBF9931293C@gmail.com> <4C126EA5.1050509@gmx.at> <4DF4317D-522E-4948-9C19-ED1252BF36B2@gmail.com> <4C133EDF.8070407@gmx.at> <77C00490-801D-47B9-83BC-32D786F1F684@gmail.com> <1F24A2FE-EF86-4E03-84CF-69748A482C64@gmail.com> <2E617238-2118-408D-8939-80C50A2CB9FB@gmail.com> <268FB0C3-89E6-41DF-9136-4968332547FA@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1276536382 12968 80.91.229.12 (14 Jun 2010 17:26:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 17:26:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: martin rudalics , Stefan Monnier , YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu , Emacs-Devel devel To: David Reitter Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 14 19:26:20 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OODQS-0007Yk-3X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:26:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34481 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OODQR-0005Ln-Dx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:26:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=54542 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OODPV-0004nZ-Kl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:25:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OODJt-0002vq-CS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:19:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-gy0-f169.google.com ([209.85.160.169]:42007) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OODJt-0002vi-AI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:19:33 -0400 Original-Received: by gyg4 with SMTP id 4so3056736gyg.0 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2010 10:19:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=f/pBzsuZPlQ+XQcRA/iMPopNNMs8Da7g/rgwHjU0gxw=; b=GnJX/zCk0xerQJ6Ao7oPfI5pqz+1Sim5ybC3i/l2KCxdZhGyQayQRMGopfEDRhZW2x 59p4nK0pKQih3YtAWxxmn+Qu6HjrTIw+JFLLhmgwMGVlIypjfyp92GKfdBaf9C2/Yke5 7fNKf//b9oel8LteeSsvABGoYCcpcvQ4sM18M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=K7ZjeU9TlA1zPb/oRxmSW6pY+CLP/RLkZR3aDuGqW2rXq8fEtmKovuQbC84smxmh8X Jh0cqugJqF/FRJIpRsLOFSA1zNgTQW8yNvTAPnuRO9+eRCtxCKk+8zzKTufSwZfVIUOw YTj6TJJ3tdcyhBY4/MSJJib7ZvL4gQK+PDADY= Original-Received: by 10.101.205.6 with SMTP id h6mr5060659anq.179.1276535972823; Mon, 14 Jun 2010 10:19:32 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.100.154.15 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jun 2010 10:19:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <268FB0C3-89E6-41DF-9136-4968332547FA@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:125921 Archived-At: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:14 PM, David Reitter wr= ote: > On Jun 14, 2010, at 12:47 PM, Lennart Borgman wrote: >> >> Was not what you shown (Command-Tab switching) what the window handler >> on OS X does? If so then trying to interfere with that is probably a >> bad idea (and is prevented actively by at least w32). > > To clarify: I spoke about application switching, not switching between th= e windows of a single application (A-` and A-~). > OSX and Windows follow different philosophies there. > > I fully agree that one should let the window manager do it, but we want t= o make sure that this interacts nicely with programmatically raised frames = and such. =C2=A0I think this should be no problem. I see, then we misunderstood each other. Perhaps one of the main problem with getting this to work with programmatically raised windows is that it is sometimes hard to wait for the relevant message from the window manager before proceeding. I think that is necessary.