From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: The copyright issue (Was: Key bindings proposal) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 12:15:43 +0200 Message-ID: References: <19546.32875.515000.117266@gargle.gargle.HOWL> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281349072 3601 80.91.229.12 (9 Aug 2010 10:17:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 10:17:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Bernardo Barros , stuhacking@gmail.com, stephen@xemacs.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, u.s.reddy@cs.bham.ac.uk To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 09 12:17:49 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OiPQR-0005y3-PH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 12:17:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50863 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OiPPE-0008Rn-UM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 06:16:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=36412 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OiPOx-0008PN-CD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 06:16:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OiPOm-0000Z4-8n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 06:16:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-iw0-f169.google.com ([209.85.214.169]:41321) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OiPOm-0000Yw-1I; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 06:16:04 -0400 Original-Received: by iwn10 with SMTP id 10so4587509iwn.0 for ; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 03:16:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=RieqZzG5rOkdq3TgjOEllqt2f7GuWKMuIZkPZgggrS4=; b=C6bhEcKyKSfnM528dDzySUdSFve9+HPc0iUSeClRcKbvcl2zrCbsQmzHKs4+K2P3dZ MP4Q6fHfIxjs4imcIWN4JBXdYf0jw1LcA9BgMqpkoJt79JHevrdTNCR5Qm+9TAA4A2Xb X4kGa7EdJlr9LEbKoIpMkh+4b9SBuGGDlzvmM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GfP3Hl+qCMCRUcA7JYKJkKcmaCuZ+f3Eo6iEqibSSvQuLdaXJWbViTlcjAyP3EBmFY qBdr56d1qk0iBmOF1vsaQF5vSRwHhORNFEUCeDXRM3Oj4yJG6yY2h0Hiw8jP0Gwh3ZKQ LdsGrprfiJTV4JZyP7tlSBz9UmR+lPQUvTg8c= Original-Received: by 10.231.119.229 with SMTP id a37mr18642013ibr.169.1281348963248; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 03:16:03 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.231.162.11 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Aug 2010 03:15:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128464 Archived-At: On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 12:00, Richard Stallman wrote: > My reading is that, in his perfect world, the GNU Hurd would have the > popularity that Linux currently enjoys. Yes. > He did not state for what > reason or motive the users of that world would have chosen it. Pitfalls and all, it is based on a stronger technical foundation (though of course Linux has evolved a lot from its almost-Minix days). It is GNU. And it's not from Linus. These are all positives in my view. > But we can presume that, if the Hurd were this popular for a long time, > the community would make it work very well. Quite likely. > I would wish for all software users to > have freedom and value freedom. And then non-free software would vanish in a puff of smoke, and lawyers would jump out their windows in the thousands. All positives, again. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Juanma