From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bzr send workflow (Was: Locks on the Bzr repository) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 13:11:13 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87occvzosg.fsf@bnikolic.co.uk> <87lj7z6pyn.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1282475505 29880 80.91.229.12 (22 Aug 2010 11:11:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 11:11:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Bojan Nikolic , Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 22 13:11:43 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1On8Sl-0007kl-0o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 13:11:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58870 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1On8Sk-0006Dn-DU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 07:11:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=37405 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1On8Se-0006Di-AB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 07:11:37 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1On8Sc-0007Kh-Ta for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 07:11:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.216.41]:38453) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1On8Sc-0007KR-RQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 07:11:34 -0400 Original-Received: by qwk4 with SMTP id 4so4707245qwk.0 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 04:11:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ELU/LcagdJsNkavgSzDhPlLQ9mgQfRCAPWHDN37qoy8=; b=FR/P5UQKCcRr3LdAAb3+/cWvN3zsfFobPT4FVZB5MrQJVj/yGuWkRhm4x8+qbsb7JX 6+WC2ThXsOQrY8t2EEH/UDuZDVLarKfCNfL0wOrIQOLGtcEJ/g/7XpRlVFzsMlCxMyLx miNaC7OxCk4iQwvDcwxqgazgVAtOFKepUqU2o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AJpIEkCyUmRlN/svOMQAFj86flPid07nrcOeEfa3K7FM4bb3z5E5C+aeDFezLabQW0 N7GKs8QVh5HfVLbO/5HeFBnNX4kYk6tMMUr7l48D2CORAHHEKrPENFJpL3xYA8kKWPei 8S2JNqOj2JK8P3AZGfgkEJYkBSJ2WMIV5Svh0= Original-Received: by 10.224.20.81 with SMTP id e17mr2420471qab.237.1282475493083; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 04:11:33 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.229.20.139 with HTTP; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 04:11:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87lj7z6pyn.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:129023 Archived-At: On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull w= rote: > Bojan Nikolic writes: > > =C2=A0> As already much discussed, the problems people are experiencing a= re > =C2=A0> basically due to many people trying to write (in some way) to the > =C2=A0> same sftp://bzr.sv.gnu.org/srv/bzr/emacs/trunk/ location via the > =C2=A0> dumb sftp protocol. > =C2=A0> > =C2=A0> There are many ways around this, but one I did not see mentioned > =C2=A0> (maybe I missed it) is using the bzr send command to send merge > =C2=A0> "bundles" via email. This is the way bzr development itself worke= d > =C2=A0> while I followed it, and I've used it on some of my own projects > =C2=A0> too. I was always very impressed how well it worked. > > I don't think this helps much. =C2=A0The underlying problem for Emacs (an= d > other bzr-based projects on Savannah) is that Savannah doesn't want to > allow bzr+ssh until the Savannah admins understand the security > implications. =C2=A0The Bazaar development workflow involves at least one > separate server application not yet available on Savannah (the pqm > Patch Queue Manager), and I can't imagine that installing that would > be any easier than upgrading already installed software to use a smart > server over ssh. Is moving to Launchpad an option?