From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-d deleting region considered harmful Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 13:51:47 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87eicrx1ls.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <83lj6zz9o0.fsf@gnu.org> <6490F7CF223542FEBC8EADD8C81B6DFC@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1284984735 11249 80.91.229.12 (20 Sep 2010 12:12:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 12:12:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 20 14:12:10 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OxfE9-0001yx-R2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 14:12:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33967 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oxf7W-0007Dq-0n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:05:18 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=55949 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oxeux-0002ge-4Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 07:52:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oxeun-0004gj-F7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 07:52:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qy0-f169.google.com ([209.85.216.169]:43002) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oxeum-0004g8-3y; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 07:52:08 -0400 Original-Received: by qyk8 with SMTP id 8so2949060qyk.0 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 04:52:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZmxqPjvicTp6uy5ZwtSUPbF1wAamiJIuTmD77ciwHsA=; b=rbXfeGNlz/PK5z/WinHhZCuUZRVrT9CO4U652MeCybtC87AjBgxEaRGD03gucpKJTs vI4MogzKEdm/mZUfb6krMsfy3FiZBWN5VkjDdEk+RxoYeSogyaeDGgE6lhzRvtx7e+jc ueIcC79+IxG9WWIJxD0Hxq3gMmL7wW+jMKBM8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jRKtzy9iUE7chBC4xMhta2EDOUuRi/r9MwD8UqqzsN6qHn5Tew/ZnTBOIZr5JD6AX7 hNgvB9oo2rKIr+98sbe9ceDYIkpLVLZAm/sOTSRr2qBLekvgmCTGa/NuAfgK2nL3GxOm Gdm2hVpzE20RGa9A0JZCC7iKtxqQWxYboSG94= Original-Received: by 10.224.37.82 with SMTP id w18mr5743698qad.241.1284983527318; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 04:52:07 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.229.105.68 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 04:51:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6490F7CF223542FEBC8EADD8C81B6DFC@us.oracle.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:130528 Archived-At: On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 5:10 AM, Drew Adams wrote: >> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0Thanks. =C2=A0But we're discussing here what to do with C= -d: >> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0for `delete' we=C2=A0already decided that it should delet= e an >> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0active region (by default). =C2=A0Whether you agree with = this >> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0`delete' behavior is irrelevant. >> > >> > It won't bother anyone for `delete' to delete the region. =C2=A0Making >> > `backspace' do so is the change that will bother lots of users. >> >> However a lot of other people also expect C-d to delete the visible >> region. > > Huh? =C2=A0Where do you get that? =C2=A0Who would expect that based on ot= her applications > or platforms? =C2=A0That is certainly not what C-d does on Windows, for i= nstance. Eh, sorry, thanks Drew, I meant backspace not C-d.