From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs on OS X development Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 12:02:36 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1342173799 25347 80.91.229.3 (13 Jul 2012 10:03:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 10:03:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: gmane.emacs.devel@vulcan.local, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "John Wiegley" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 13 12:03:19 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SpciT-00066L-Q2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 12:03:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59808 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SpciT-0006wR-2n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 06:03:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59309) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Spci5-0006F7-Ff for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 06:03:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Spchv-0002nE-UV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 06:02:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout.melmac.se ([62.20.26.67]:63212) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Spchv-0002my-Ft for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 06:02:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mail01.melmac.se (mail01.melmac.se [62.20.26.80]) by mailout.melmac.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id E110B9228 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 12:02:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: (qmail 2679 invoked by uid 89); 13 Jul 2012 10:02:32 -0000 Original-Received: from h-46-59-42-18.na.cust.bahnhof.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) (boel.djarv@bdtv.se@46.59.42.18) by mail01.melmac.se with ESMTPA; 13 Jul 2012 10:02:32 -0000 Original-Received: from [172.20.199.13] (zeplin [172.20.199.13]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 686167FA06C; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 12:02:35 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-Received-From: 62.20.26.67 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:151586 Archived-At: 13 jul 2012 kl. 02:23 skrev John Wiegley: >>>>>> Stefan Monnier writes: >=20 >>> back to nsport. The difference is that noticeable. We have been = hoping the >>> nsport get better. It seems 3 years have passed. >=20 >> Waiting ain't gonna fix it, indeed. >=20 > Stefan, I want to bring up again the possibility of switching the Mac = port > over to Yamamoto's code. Is there any reason not to? I just tried = the ns > port again, and within minutes couldn't tolerate it: >=20 Compability with GNUStep is one reason. I havent looked at the lates = Mac-Port, but previously it lacked features like bidi. > 1. The colors are washed out, compared to Mac-Port. Please provide screenshots in a bug report. I have not see this. Also, = make sure the bug remains when starting with -Q. >=20 > 2. The leading on Courier is all wrong. Example: The pixels from the = top of > capital letters run into the mode-line. I need to set line-spacing = to 3 > just to make text look decent. Some people report corrupted rendering, some have no problem. Obviosly = there is some dependence on the osx version used, or perhaps the = language settings. But as it is not easily reproducable by the few = presons that fixes NS-port bugs it is not easy to fix. >=20 > 3. If I switch to *scratch* and turn on flyspell, I can out-type Emacs = very > easily, the lag is that bad. That is a real problem. I am looking in to this, but my time is very = limited. Jan D.