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From: "grischka" <grishka@gmx.de>
To: "Stefan Monnier" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, "Jan Djärv" <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>,
	joakim@verona.se, "Miles Bader" <miles@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Scrollbar thumbs
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:16:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <A824EDEE30914138A68236FA21190C56@editkapc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvr5se3tk2.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

> In any case, given how widespread the problem is, it's clear that we
> can't expect the toolkit to adapt to Emacs.  And since nobody has found
> a way yet to make Emacs DTRT, all we can do is provide various
> workarounds, which is what we've done until now.  But what I suggest is
> that instead of each toolkit backend providing its own workaround, we
> should implement the workarounds in the generic code and even implement
> several of them and let the user choose which one suits him best.
> 
> 
>        Stefan

I guess it is a good idea. If you want to get rid of stuff, throw it 
all in one place, first.

Seen that nowadays the gui-dyslexics tend to become a more rare species 
and the generation simply tends to loose the ability to understand 
that a non-linear, moreover non-contiguous and even non-complementary 
geometrical relation between scrollbar and scrollable content can be 
anything else than an accumulation of design flaws.

--- grischka





  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-11-05 15:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-02 10:41 Scrollbar thumbs (was: Customizing the mode line) grischka
2009-11-02 11:21 ` Scrollbar thumbs Miles Bader
2009-11-03  0:48   ` grischka
2009-11-03  9:27     ` David Kastrup
2009-11-04  0:09     ` Miles Bader
2009-11-04  9:51       ` grischka
2009-11-04 11:18         ` joakim
2009-11-04 19:29           ` Jan Djärv
2009-11-04 20:57             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-05  1:18               ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-11-09 23:14                 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-11-05  9:23               ` Jan D.
2009-11-05 13:59                 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-05 15:16               ` grischka [this message]
2009-11-05 15:32                 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-05 15:35                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-05 16:07                 ` David Kastrup
2009-11-05 23:55                   ` Jason Rumney
2009-11-06  0:31                     ` Miles Bader
2009-11-06  3:10                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-06  4:37                       ` Miles Bader
2009-11-06  8:42                     ` David Kastrup
2009-11-06  8:55                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-02 14:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-03  0:32   ` grischka
2009-11-03  1:18     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-03  5:37       ` grischka
2009-11-03 13:38         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-03 21:10           ` grischka
2009-11-03 23:00             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-03 10:02   ` joakim
2009-11-05  9:21     ` Jan D.
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-11-07 11:50 grischka
2009-11-07 16:38 ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-07 17:47   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-11-03 16:36 grischka
2009-11-03 17:13 ` David Kastrup
2009-10-30 11:18 Customizing the mode line Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-30 13:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-10-31  6:09   ` Manoj Srivastava
2009-10-31 20:38     ` Scrollbar thumbs (was: Customizing the mode line) Stefan Monnier
2009-11-01  3:11       ` Scrollbar thumbs Miles Bader
2009-11-02  6:55         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-02  7:41           ` Jason Rumney
2009-11-02 14:10             ` Stefan Monnier

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