From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Adrian Robert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Watchpoints for emacs lisp. Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 09:20:25 +0300 Message-ID: References: <28512483.post@talk.nabble.com> <28523705.post@talk.nabble.com> <28567671.post@talk.nabble.com> <28574547.post@talk.nabble.com> <7FA18246-9874-4EC2-AAEB-55B693541C20@mit.edu> <28577522.post@talk.nabble.com> <28585093.post@talk.nabble.com> <28585789.post@talk.nabble.com> <28586371.post@talk.nabble.com> <28587094.post@talk.nabble.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1274250043 5789 80.91.229.12 (19 May 2010 06:20:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 06:20:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ken Raeburn Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 19 08:20:42 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OEcdy-0000uW-Pz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 May 2010 08:20:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58490 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OEcdx-00078p-TP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 May 2010 02:20:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=45008 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OEcdq-00078a-LA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 May 2010 02:20:31 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OEcdp-000881-1i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 May 2010 02:20:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ew0-f216.google.com ([209.85.219.216]:60071) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OEcdo-00087s-Ph for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 May 2010 02:20:28 -0400 Original-Received: by ewy8 with SMTP id 8so1934959ewy.8 for ; Tue, 18 May 2010 23:20:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:mime-version :content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=shdIj4D+iPlmadtIrPXLDic6cWrOdlzB+gG5kaFlTvE=; b=aXpVjl40a7932igAVieLnG21wbP25n9bijI4Z4GaPx29r5E876EYrUs8Uw7eHyE8S3 Y9MMLpMyzbc0Dj165+IttwKJIRy+Lp4VFnP6JDzPlxdcz3a+jp/2yma7r6yarPD03fw2 A3RngpnUZckdKJvMmsPGzV2qZMHpTiWyPK5tc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=tm/i1Ie6hYx26pe19RN+FYeFANijzoqb7SVJlsYIwQulUSn8VDsqIBC8JvTHPL9YEu 7YcKCFe3mB3yBb8Izvh+UW0c2jmGBKEfG+Zupz8WbCYjw+m46IXnqJyZ7F4m34twdoVo 3VWKENC9xLa9VnvZcxk+3PeecgWCd/2mEw2JI= Original-Received: by 10.213.97.24 with SMTP id j24mr3647145ebn.48.1274250027746; Tue, 18 May 2010 23:20:27 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [10.0.1.2] (dsl-hkibrasgw2-ff6ec300-110.dhcp.inet.fi [88.195.110.110]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 13sm3436529ewy.9.2010.05.18.23.20.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 18 May 2010 23:20:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:124926 Archived-At: On May 19, 2010, at 7:30 AM, Ken Raeburn wrote: > On May 18, 2010, at 04:22, Adrian Robert wrote: >> Chad Brown gmail.com> writes: >>=20 >>> How much history? These are the last few lines of `bzr log': >>>=20 >>> revno: 1 >>> committer: Jim Blandy redhat.com> >>> timestamp: Thu 1985-04-18 00:48:29 +0000 >>> message: >>> entered into RCS >>=20 >> Hmm, interesting, I didn't realize Redhat was around in 1985! >>=20 >> (In other words, why is revision of the logs taking place and can it = be stopped?) >=20 > I assume it's probably something like mapping the FSF account "jimb" = consistently to the most recent email id he's using in the logs as of = the (re-)conversion date, since the CVS logs don't have the email info. = There are ChangeLog files which have email addresses, but since they're = not a standard part of every software project, and they're not always = updated as part of the same CVS commit (and certainly weren't updated in = the same instant with RCS), it wouldn't surprise me if the conversion = tool didn't try to use them for figuring out email addresses. And = really, it would be much more of a manual process, since the email = address and FSF account name don't necessarily have some obvious and = easy-to-program correspondence. >=20 > Even if someone did go back and rewrite the old commits with the old = email addresses people were using at the time, I don't know about bzr, = but git would see it as a completely rewritten history, resulting in new = commit ids, etc. I've wasted enough time dealing with VCS issues with = Emacs, and still haven't quite untangled from the bzr switch; personally = I'd rather this just not get "fixed". I agree.. I was getting a bit mixed up with ChangeLogs.. it would have = been good though difficult to try to use that info instead of 1:1 from = CVS account, but not worth huge efforts now. Thanks for the clarification.