From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Reitter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: paragraphs.el: do forward-sentence and friends not work? Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:27:02 +0000 Message-ID: References: <7BC345E9-711F-48AE-AF7F-CD3C51E96A47@gmail.com> <692473D9-ADB4-4485-ADA7-B46DF6CCCD9E@gmail.com> <87wsp87hkj.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87lk5n7r76.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1202992090 22315 80.91.229.12 (14 Feb 2008 12:28:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:28:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Andreas Schwab , emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org To: Stephen J. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:89071 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:21086 Archived-At: On 14 Feb 2008, at 10:44, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > Do you wish to maintain the opposite, that the extra whitespace makes > frenchspaced text less readable? Oh no, and that wasn't my point. You said that the Emacs default is to require users to use double spacing "because AFAIK it's still Chicago Manual of Style-standard to follow a sentence-ending period with two spaces". Now I've quoted the Chicago manual of style from the Wikipedia entry, saying the exact opposite. By your logic, Emacs would have to adopt a different default then. That said, while I do believe that the double-spacing is an improvement to readability, I want to be able to edit other people's texts. (It is an useless attitude to impose on users a writing style uncommon outside the U.S.--crippling the M-e / M-a features does not help anyone.)