From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Ng, Andrew" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Emacs 22.1 Windows ClearType Support Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:24:56 -0500 Message-ID: References: <4745FD5C.8030007@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1195815750 24099 80.91.229.12 (23 Nov 2007 11:02:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:02:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juanma Barranquero , Emacs Devel To: "Jason Rumney" , "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 23 12:02:37 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IvWIk-0000o1-5J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:02:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IvWIV-0005oe-Rv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 06:02:11 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IvKYa-0000GZ-KC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:30:00 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IvKYZ-0000F4-Sw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:29:59 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IvKYZ-0000Ew-LL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:29:59 -0500 Original-Received: from irp2.ptc.com ([12.11.148.84]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IvKYV-0006wk-Ig; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:29:55 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,453,1188792000"; d="scan'208";a="4841520" Original-Received: from hq-ex3fe2.ptcnet.ptc.com ([132.253.201.63]) by irp2.ptc.com with ESMTP; 22 Nov 2007 17:29:55 -0500 Original-Received: from HQ-MAIL3.ptcnet.ptc.com ([132.253.202.90]) by HQ-EX3FE2.ptcnet.ptc.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:29:55 -0500 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Emacs 22.1 Windows ClearType Support Thread-Index: AcgtVT1vvPNyWBx7TXyN/DE2WvlIwAAAUWBD X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Nov 2007 22:29:55.0119 (UTC) FILETIME=[34CB1BF0:01C82D57] X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 06:02:07 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:83943 Archived-At: Part of the reason that I needed a way to enable ClearType in Emacs is = that by default I actually have ClearType disabled on my system. The = reason for this is that I have a two LCD monitor setup but = unfortunately, the two LCD monitors RGB order do not match. This = effectively means that ClearType looks great on one display and not so = good on the other. That's one thing Microsoft obviously didn't consider = when implementing the ClearType support. =20 Because I mostly use Emacs on the one LCD monitor, I explicitly enable = ClearType in Emacs. =20 Cheers, =20 Andrew ________________________________ From: Jason Rumney [mailto:jasonr@gnu.org] Sent: Thu 22/11/2007 22:06 To: Drew Adams Cc: Juanma Barranquero; Ng, Andrew; Emacs Devel Subject: Re: Emacs 22.1 Windows ClearType Support Drew Adams wrote: > I haven't followed the problems reported with ClearType. But IIUC this = patch lets you turn ClearType on and off from within Emacs, using an = environment variable. If so, that's good. > > I find that ClearType is great with Emacs on Windows, but if it = presents problems in particular contexts (e.g. particular fonts or = whatever), then perhaps it would be worth having a toggle command to = flip it? > =20 The new font backend in emacs-unicode-2 lets you override antialiasing on a case by case basis for each font. I think an environment variable is the wrong solution for Emacs, and if the patch really fixes the problems, then any option is unnecessary.