From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Qiantan Hong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: sqlite3 Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2021 12:00:08 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87tufmjyai.fsf@gnus.org> <877dcil2sj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87czm98qi1.fsf@gnu.org> <87o85tcwm0.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874k7ljwkr.fsf@gnus.org> <87fsr5cuzq.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <878rwx8mdn.fsf@gnu.org> <87r1aphuei.fsf@gnus.org> <837dcex6ub.fsf@gnu.org> <83a6h9tu1c.fsf@gnu.org> <63ABAF01-160E-4B86-AA9B-B58F0A04E3EB@mit.edu> <87zgp9m5je.fsf@web.de> <83r1aksn37.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37386"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Michael Heerdegen , "larsi@gnus.org" , "emacs-devel@gnu.org" To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 10 13:01:37 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mvean-0009bQ-Ea for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 13:01:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51360 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mveam-0005ZH-4l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 07:01:36 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57290) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mveZc-0004PP-3C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 07:00:24 -0500 Original-Received: from outgoing-exchange-5.mit.edu ([18.9.28.59]:46559) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mveZa-00089k-Ad; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 07:00:23 -0500 Original-Received: from oc11exedge1.exchange.mit.edu (OC11EXEDGE1.EXCHANGE.MIT.EDU [18.9.3.17]) by outgoing-exchange-5.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id 1BAC04sE009562; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 07:00:20 -0500 Original-Received: from oc11expo16.exchange.mit.edu (18.9.4.47) by oc11exedge1.exchange.mit.edu (18.9.3.17) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1497.26; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 06:59:28 -0500 Original-Received: from oc11expo16.exchange.mit.edu (18.9.4.47) by oc11expo16.exchange.mit.edu (18.9.4.47) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1497.23; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 07:00:08 -0500 Original-Received: from oc11expo16.exchange.mit.edu ([18.9.4.47]) by oc11expo16.exchange.mit.edu ([18.9.4.47]) with mapi id 15.00.1497.023; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 07:00:08 -0500 Thread-Topic: sqlite3 Thread-Index: AQHX6kP05Uksy0m/5EaKKPl4hlIxS6wr7cIA//+z0EaAAFiqgA== In-Reply-To: <83r1aksn37.fsf@gnu.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [128.12.11.144] Content-ID: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=18.9.28.59; envelope-from=qhong@mit.edu; helo=outgoing-exchange-5.mit.edu X-Spam_score_int: -41 X-Spam_score: -4.2 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.2 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:281588 Archived-At: > On Dec 10, 2021, at 3:42 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >=20 > A blanket opposition like that, which is not specific to a certain use > or a class of uses of the capability, makes no sense at all. You are > in effect saying that there are no applications in the world that > should use a DB except those that browse DBs created by others. IOW, > in an ideal world, you'd deny the very need for having persistent DBs > for _any_ application. Please rethink such a general attitude. Please read my original arguments. The scope is limited to Emacs. > 5. Database is essential for manipulating trillions of records, > but that's not a typical use case of Emacs. It provides little > benefit if data fits into main memory. The only non typical use case of Emacs I can think of is as an database browser/editor.