From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Dyballa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: 23.0.60; etc/DOC-${version}.buildnumber Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:41:19 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1208029314 22411 80.91.229.12 (12 Apr 2008 19:41:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 19:41:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 12 21:42:26 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JklcD-00025w-8m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:42:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JklbZ-0006Q5-8C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:41:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JklbT-0006Mu-NR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:41:35 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JklbR-0006Iw-RN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:41:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JklbR-0006Il-MP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:41:33 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JklbR-0005xs-Ah for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:41:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166] helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JklbR-0005X4-29 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:41:33 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JklbM-0005wK-A7 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:41:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mout2.freenet.de ([195.4.92.92]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JklbL-0005vH-AI; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:41:27 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.4.92.22] (helo=12.mx.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JklbJ-0002Ov-4E; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:41:25 +0200 Original-Received: from fcd11.f.ppp-pool.de ([195.4.205.17]:55107 helo=[192.168.1.2]) by 12.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #12) id 1JklbI-0008Vx-Or; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:41:25 +0200 In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:95077 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:22001 Archived-At: Am 12.04.2008 um 18:43 schrieb Eli Zaretskii: > It used to be the case that the built binary was installed under 2 > different names: `emacs' and `emacs-${version}.buildnumber', which > were both hard links to the same file. Deleting `emacs' would then > leave the other one around, and when invoked, it would want the DOC > file with the corresponding suffix. Is this no longer the case? This is still the case. > That is, does installing a new version completely erases the old one? Yes. I made an experiment. Around noon I made clean and then updated from CVS, finally made bootstrap. Since etc/DOC-23.0.60.1 was not removed (with both src/emacs and src/emacs-23.0.60.1) I complained, because in the weeks ago it happened that, when this DOC file survived deletion, a new one was created with the buildnumber increased by one either by make or by 'make bootstrap', which was then installed together with etc/emacs-${version}.buildnumber. (The weather was so fine and sunny that I stopped seeing a sense in deleting the file by hand.) After 'make bootstrap' and then 'make clean' these files existed: -rw-r--r-- 1 root admin 2245430 7 Apr 00:42 /usr/local/share/ emacs/23.0.60/etc/DOC-23.0.60.1 -rw-r--r-- 1 pete admin 2243354 12 Apr 14:58 etc/DOC-23.0.60.1 I re-compiled with a simple make and decided to install. Then these files existed: -rw-r--r-- 1 root admin 2243354 12 Apr 20:07 /usr/local/share/ emacs/23.0.60/etc/DOC-23.0.60.1 -rw-r--r-- 1 pete admin 2243354 12 Apr 20:07 etc/DOC -rw-r--r-- 1 pete admin 2243354 12 Apr 20:07 etc/DOC-23.0.60.1 That's really bad! This isn't the same I encountered before a few times! Did someone fix the bug? Or was I doing the wrong thing? So I decided to 'make clean' and 'make bootstrap' again. After more than an hour these files now exist: -rw-r--r-- 1 root admin 2243354 12 Apr 20:07 /usr/local/share/ emacs/23.0.60/etc/DOC-23.0.60.1 -rw-r--r-- 1 pete admin 2243354 12 Apr 21:29 etc/DOC -rw-r--r-- 1 pete admin 2243354 12 Apr 21:29 etc/DOC-23.0.60.1 So it seems that the case is now solved! Although etc/DOC-$ {version}.buildnumber is left and etc/DOC is removed, it does not happen any more that etc/DOC-${version}. is built, and later potentially installed. My complaint came too late ... Sorry! -- Greetings Pete For some reason, this fortune reminds everyone of Marvin Zelkowitz.