From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: chad Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs on OS X development Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:11:45 -0700 Message-ID: References: <33545A47-0907-4059-92A6-0343CEDD2750@swipnet.se> <869E965F-CD75-46D6-92BB-B3C08C8D846B@swipnet.se> <87fw8t7siv.fsf@gnu.org> <5ACE24AD-E349-49ED-B737-885773069F1E@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1342390328 15432 80.91.229.3 (15 Jul 2012 22:12:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:12:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Donald Curtis Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 16 00:12:08 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SqX2t-00061N-4J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 00:12:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54015 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SqX2s-0000jv-8c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:12:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60412) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SqX2q-0000jo-CS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:12:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SqX2p-0006a3-6z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:12:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qc0-f169.google.com ([209.85.216.169]:64135) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SqX2p-0006ZF-2d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:12:03 -0400 Original-Received: by qcsd16 with SMTP id d16so3350142qcs.0 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:12:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=FrOhXCszwNNJiIYK1CXHLa0T10PIv6oLUfOuhunJ2BU=; b=maxrtjcS9V4bhQFDmgtcrzYVBQ8LjOuuYFofD+YNnMf6jXL5/TaKV68UubBEWzYTBu 8jGaySihkr4w8NzUXGRPzDpREDgn+gIxWBtmo8ErTk4AupOdd0W84Lyh6d6KSYoyR3PY /Gu3UL07V2JVh43zu+MxhZizOh5mX2Pu3cj3pq3X05IRFWaTMk44Jy+BIZBklVsq0GAm 7z/zIlkzXhjMe8PpnFXFpTfbrnpP+32MLnKieJK9ZHr91h46GXcQlmPdpsD12ew7m6dg sR+xk+YiC9yyIAy46hIK/gVruDx0a63pGybhKqGs90QhFWlDAiFEiwfzMPPpbLunfopl C5aA== Original-Received: by 10.224.32.205 with SMTP id e13mr17455059qad.69.1342390322677; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:12:02 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [10.0.0.113] ([12.198.236.170]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ea5sm20343701qab.2.2012.07.15.15.11.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:12:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5ACE24AD-E349-49ED-B737-885773069F1E@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.216.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:151640 Archived-At: On Jul 15, 2012, at 2:34 PM, Donald Curtis wrote: > All of these issues have been reported Thanks for reporting these problems! > Anyways, my point want to commend the work and put in my vote for the = mac version. Do you use a relocatable .app bundle, or does your mac version scatter = lots of stuff around /usr/local? This latter is a pet peeve of mine = that I had surprising trouble avoiding. > I guess the only thing I can do is attempt to try an merge in the = changes, but it sounds like people more educated on the matter myself = have tried and failed. I don't think that anyone has put much effort into trying this; for = myself, I tried to see if it was easy, and it wasn't. I imagine that = it's not actually very hard, but I don't have the time to dedicate to an = effort beyond `easy' right now. It will surely require time to either = dig into the differences or experimentation to figure out how to deal = with the many conflicts, but I don't think it requires pre-existing = advanced knowledge of emacs or macosx; just time and attention. > It seems like merging the two may be worse though, possibly what we = need is a special branch, one that is supported by the project? I don't know that many people see a value to adding a bzr branch for = non-mergable code at this point. Secretly, I suspect that many of the = people who are interested in merging the wo branches would prefer to = work from git while they're merging, but that's entirely supposition on = my part (based on how many people are shadowing Yamamoto-san's tree in = git). Lest I be confusing based on not having time to shorten the message = further: I believe that this is a useful area for expending energy, and = it doesn't require an overly large amount of expertise, but it also = isn't trivial or simple. Thanks in advance if you find time and energy = to work on it! *Chad=