From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal for an improved `help-for-help' Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2021 23:35:11 +0000 Message-ID: <9ff81b52fa9bbb7b0379@heytings.org> References: <838s7hxqkr.fsf@gnu.org> <83mtua9isw.fsf@gnu.org> <9ff81b52fa31936e9783@heytings.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17836"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 09 01:36:04 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lUeBu-0004WR-Jc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2021 01:36:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34096 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lUeBt-0004uw-LD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2021 19:36:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37178) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lUeBC-0004SM-0V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2021 19:35:18 -0400 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:34652) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lUeB7-0005qH-Su for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2021 19:35:17 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1617924911; bh=1x0RMhdGUiTsVxw9aBkgQcSDjD6H2EWMKtpMyrzlobc=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=NrLxkYQKavGWRBaEUnV1oZsDJzezlRLmvpDvmvH0UlB7yH7gwXjaVSGk8LzVzaQ2i VruP2DLfiVXQhc0AoFWyZFX0o1314jmLW3UIr2gX9B98CDGxlDrOp7+jjFUxFkJBPR DY9SUmS8jFapMERcRtXB0NZFN3Pj3WWwg201nMZjsX84IM2xxXL0/LkNforuYnda0M hj0g+vtX+u1VH1TZHrodatgk5kYKVTFPiVRHFk1IbJdZMPZNZmXcL2EkLGxXS6YMSn Rc3/VydtfbrC3Vqr1XY/f+OYrdYcxta/8C3hxzzRpQKjsVsSIXYjb7OFtXp2ZshMOq dYtVMZr5xqSgw== In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.142.160.155; envelope-from=gregory@heytings.org; helo=heytings.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:267676 Archived-At: >> I would put "Describe input method" as the first entry there, it's the >> one users will most likely want/need to use. > > OK, I'll take your word for it. > > (I never use this stuff so I'm particularly happy for this feedback.) > I'd suggest you try it, it's a very nice feature of Emacs. C-x C-m C-\, select TeX (for example), and type \alpha, \beta, \gamma. >> And I would perhaps move the "Show current syntax table" in that >> section, above the "Display the HELLO file". > > Hmm, but that has nothing to do with i18n, does it? > It's not strictly speaking a help command about character codings indeed, but it's about how Emacs handles characters, so it's much closer to character codings than to the help commands in the "other help commands" section.