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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: rms@gnu.org, Tom Gillespie <tgbugs@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: Discoverability (was: Changes for 28)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 09:53:11 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9ea72b0f-7799-4b17-b165-15cf453a2a62@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1kGCQO-0006y2-1t@fencepost.gnu.org>

>> 1. Add the Describe sub-menu to the top in addition to having it as a
>>    sub-menu in Help.
> 
> These are very good ideas.  1 and 2 are quite concrete -- I think
> people could go off right now and implement them, figuring out the
> details along the way.

Why is #1 a good idea?  IIUC, the suggestion is
to create a separate menu-bar menu for Describe.

To me, Help > Describe makes a lot of sense.
It's not single-click, but it's main purpose is
discoverability - in particular, discovering
keys that describe things.

Menu-bar space is a scarce resource, especially
when mode-specific menus are added.

If we were really eager to sacrifice menu-bar
space by adding more menus there, especially
ones that would be shown in all modes, I can
imagine more important ones to add (Search,
for example, which can include Replace and more
items).

(And other Edit submenus, such as Go To and
Bookmarks could reasonably be moved to File;
they're not particularly about editing.)



  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-10 16:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-08 23:17 Discoverability (was: Changes for 28) Tom Gillespie
2020-09-09  2:51 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-09-09  4:36   ` Tom Gillespie
2020-09-11  4:07     ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-09  8:07   ` tomas
2020-09-10  2:34 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-10  2:35 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-10 16:53   ` Drew Adams [this message]
2020-09-10 17:03     ` Eli Zaretskii
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     [not found] ` <<E1kGCQO-0006y2-1t@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]   ` <<9ea72b0f-7799-4b17-b165-15cf453a2a62@default>
     [not found]     ` <<83o8mdimxw.fsf@gnu.org>
2020-09-10 18:30       ` Drew Adams
2020-09-10 18:44         ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] <<<CA+G3_PN2br=KTRvg+L7JNbR=io-0J=j0SQs-=hQAN=KJh+bpww@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <<<E1kGCQO-0006y2-1t@fencepost.gnu.org>
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     [not found]         ` <<83k0x1ii9i.fsf@gnu.org>
2020-09-10 19:05           ` Drew Adams
2020-09-10 19:42             ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] <<<<CA+G3_PN2br=KTRvg+L7JNbR=io-0J=j0SQs-=hQAN=KJh+bpww@mail.gmail.com>
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     [not found]             ` <<83een9iflf.fsf@gnu.org>
2020-09-10 20:50               ` Drew Adams

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