From: "Clément Pit-Claudel" <cpitclaudel@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Variable-width font indentation
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2018 14:48:33 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9e7e6fa1-47d8-c0a2-797d-cd7edbf8fc4c@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83muzhodkx.fsf@gnu.org>
On 2018-03-09 03:30, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu
>> From: Clément Pit-Claudel <cpitclaudel@gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 14:55:20 -0500
>>
>>> Maybe we could find a middle ground, whereby each one of the examples
>>> will approximately align. If that can be done, and the result is
>>> acceptable, then the problem of recording the text properties in the
>>> file and/or reindenting when the file is revisited goes away.
>>
>> Maybe :) I don't know how good it would look, in practice, but it's easy to experiment.
>> Paul's algorithm is not too bad in that sense: these two examples align pixel-perfectly.
>
> Yes, but as I said, I don't think that approach is appropriate for
> code indentation, because leading whitespace in code blocks _must_
> always align, IMO. IOW, that approach seems to favor alignment of
> multi-line code sequences to alignment of indented blocks, and I think
> programming modes should have the opposite preference.
Indeed :) I was mostly of the same opinion, but I find the actual results pretty OK.
>>> That's more relevant for text-derived modes, where indentation levels
>>> are rigid and not determined by previous lines. There we could do a
>>> better job, I hope.
>>
>> OK. I tend to think of indentation even in text modes as being somewhat previous-lines dependent (wrapped paragraphs align relative to bullet points, for example), but I agree that it isn't as much as in programming modes.
>
> IME, indentation of text in word processors I use does not depend on
> previous lines at all.
Except in lists, right? For example it's not uncommon to wrap like this:
* Some long text here
that wraps around:
i. Point 1
… continued
ii. Point 2
… continued
iii. Point 3
… continued
Clément
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2018-03-01 23:22 ` Let's make the GC safe and iterative (Was: Re: bug#30626) Daniel Colascione
2018-03-01 23:29 ` Paul Eggert
2018-03-05 6:31 ` Ken Raeburn
2018-03-05 13:11 ` What improvements would be truly useful? Richard Stallman
2018-03-05 14:02 ` John Yates
2018-03-05 17:21 ` Paul Eggert
2018-03-05 16:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-05 17:32 ` Rostislav Svoboda
2018-03-05 18:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-05 19:18 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-03-05 20:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-05 23:05 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-05 23:16 ` dancol
2018-03-06 20:54 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-06 21:15 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-03-08 4:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-08 9:16 ` Jefferson Carpenter
2018-03-08 9:17 ` Yuri Khan
2018-03-08 13:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-08 20:07 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-08 20:29 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-03-09 4:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-09 22:20 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-09 22:42 ` Karl Fogel
2018-03-11 17:02 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-03-06 20:01 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-03-06 20:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 20:41 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-03-07 17:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-07 18:30 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-03-07 19:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-07 20:49 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-03-07 23:00 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-09 10:56 ` Phillip Lord
2018-03-09 13:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-10 16:02 ` Phillip Lord
2018-03-10 18:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-09 22:20 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-06 15:48 ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-03-05 19:05 ` Aaron Ecay
2018-03-05 20:55 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-03-05 23:05 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-09 11:02 ` Phillip Lord
2018-03-09 22:20 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-10 20:23 ` Phillip Lord
2018-03-11 23:26 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-05 17:57 ` Variable-width font indentation (was: What improvements would be truly useful?) Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-05 19:32 ` dancol
2018-03-05 19:49 ` Variable-width font indentation Paul Eggert
2018-03-06 15:15 ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-03-06 15:34 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-06 17:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-05 19:58 ` Variable-width font indentation (was: What improvements would be truly useful?) Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-05 20:28 ` Variable-width font indentation Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-05 22:30 ` Paul Eggert
2018-03-05 22:53 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-03-06 1:06 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-06 1:30 ` Paul Eggert
2018-03-06 1:40 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-06 2:04 ` Paul Eggert
2018-03-06 3:36 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-06 16:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 19:50 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-06 5:48 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-03-06 13:18 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-06 16:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 20:11 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-06 20:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-07 13:15 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-07 18:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-09 16:07 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-07 22:13 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-08 13:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-08 14:05 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-06 16:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 16:38 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-03-06 17:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 17:55 ` dancol
2018-03-06 20:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 20:20 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-03-06 18:53 ` Sam Steingold
2018-03-06 22:43 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-03-07 17:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-07 19:38 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-03-07 20:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-07 23:01 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-08 12:33 ` Robert Pluim
2018-03-08 13:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-08 15:15 ` Robert Pluim
2018-03-06 20:52 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-06 4:05 ` Herring, Davis
2018-03-06 13:33 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-06 14:18 ` Herring, Davis
2018-03-06 15:02 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-06 16:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 19:59 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-06 20:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 21:15 ` Paul Eggert
2018-03-06 21:47 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-07 17:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-07 18:27 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-07 20:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-07 20:32 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-08 15:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-08 16:30 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-08 19:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-08 19:55 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-09 8:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-09 17:52 ` Paul Eggert
2018-03-09 18:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-09 20:16 ` Paul Eggert
2018-03-09 21:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-09 21:55 ` Paul Eggert
2018-03-10 0:09 ` James Cloos
2018-03-10 8:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-10 19:48 ` James Cloos
2018-03-10 20:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-10 22:18 ` James Cloos
2018-03-11 3:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-09 19:48 ` Clément Pit-Claudel [this message]
2018-03-09 21:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-09 22:54 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-10 8:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-10 4:27 ` Yuri Khan
2018-03-10 8:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-10 11:42 ` Yuri Khan
2018-03-10 14:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-10 13:49 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-08 4:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-08 13:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-08 22:03 ` Paul Eggert
2018-03-09 8:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-09 16:05 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-09 16:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-10 8:12 ` Variable-width font alignment Stephen Leake
2018-03-10 8:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-10 17:30 ` Stephen Leake
2018-03-10 19:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-10 7:42 ` Variable-width font indentation Stephen Leake
2018-03-06 16:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-06 19:59 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-05 23:05 ` Variable-width font indentation (was: What improvements would be truly useful?) Richard Stallman
2018-03-06 16:04 ` Variable-width font indentation Stefan Monnier
2018-03-06 17:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 18:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-06 20:56 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-06 20:55 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-07 7:05 ` Yuri Khan
2018-03-06 16:14 ` Variable-width font indentation (was: What improvements would be truly useful?) Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 20:55 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-05 18:51 ` What improvements would be truly useful? Daniele Nicolodi
2018-03-05 19:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 6:32 ` Daniele Nicolodi
2018-03-06 16:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 17:01 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-03-07 5:45 ` Daniele Nicolodi
2018-03-07 17:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-07 17:49 ` Daniele Nicolodi
2018-03-07 18:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-07 21:45 ` Philipp Stephani
2018-03-08 13:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-08 16:24 ` Alan Third
2018-03-08 18:02 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-03-06 7:48 ` Yuri Khan
2018-03-06 17:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-05 21:15 ` Juri Linkov
2018-03-05 23:46 ` Óscar Fuentes
2018-03-06 3:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-04-02 20:40 ` Continuous image scrolling (was: What improvements would be truly useful?) Juri Linkov
2018-04-03 1:59 ` Continuous image scrolling Óscar Fuentes
2018-04-03 7:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-04-03 19:59 ` Juri Linkov
2018-04-03 20:20 ` Drew Adams
2018-04-04 19:54 ` Juri Linkov
2018-04-03 21:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-04-03 21:57 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-04-04 6:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-04-04 19:50 ` Juri Linkov
2018-04-05 6:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-04-04 23:31 ` Tak Kunihiro
2018-04-05 2:45 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-04-05 3:54 ` Tak Kunihiro
2018-04-05 19:56 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-04-05 22:59 ` Tak Kunihiro
2018-04-06 4:36 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-04-06 9:35 ` Tak Kunihiro
2018-04-04 19:19 ` John Wiegley
2018-03-05 22:09 ` What improvements would be truly useful? John Wiegley
2018-03-05 23:04 ` daniel sutton
2018-03-06 20:51 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-08 11:44 ` Toon Claes
2018-03-08 20:08 ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-12 21:53 ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-03-01 23:38 ` Let's make the GC safe and iterative Stefan Monnier
2018-03-02 0:05 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-03-02 13:47 ` Stefan Monnier
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