From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: When should ralloc.c be used? (WAS: bug#24358)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 15:34:23 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9dca4b78-b142-2bae-4401-3f1ed74598b3@cs.ucla.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1bzrTC-0004w5-Co@fencepost.gnu.org>
On 10/27/2016 01:40 PM, Richard Stallman wrote:
> Any such scheme has this problem:
> how to find all the places where initialization has stored some sort
> of value? They do not all have ways to access them and set them from Lisp.
My impression is that most such initializations are so small and fast
that we needn't worry about saving and restoring their state. We can
simply redo the initialization when Emacs starts up again - this will be
the default behavior if we leave the temacs initialization code alone,
which means we'd get this for very little maintenance effort. Any
counterexamples we can handle specially, by saving and restoring their
state by hand (so to speak).
Something along the lines of your idea for storage creation should work,
though we'll have to be careful about destructive operations like setcar
that can cause an object with an earlier sequence number to point to an
object with a later sequence number. It's not clear whether it has
significant advantages over the C-based approach.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-10-27 22:34 UTC|newest]
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2016-10-22 3:03 ` When should ralloc.c be used? (WAS: bug#24358) npostavs
2016-10-22 5:32 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-22 7:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-22 18:34 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-22 19:43 ` When should ralloc.c be used? Stefan Monnier
2016-10-23 2:37 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-23 6:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-23 7:57 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-23 8:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-23 9:38 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-23 12:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-23 13:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-23 14:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-23 14:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-23 18:19 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-23 19:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-23 20:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-24 6:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 10:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 4:59 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-24 7:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 8:29 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-10-24 8:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 16:21 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-24 16:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 16:54 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-24 17:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-25 6:23 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-25 16:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-28 6:18 ` Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas
2016-10-28 6:19 ` Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas
2016-10-28 7:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-23 15:22 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-10-23 15:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-23 15:57 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-10-23 17:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-23 20:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-23 16:44 ` Skipping unexec via a big .elc file (was: When should ralloc.c be used?) Stefan Monnier
2016-10-23 17:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-23 20:27 ` Skipping unexec via a big .elc file Stefan Monnier
2016-10-24 6:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 12:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-24 13:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 14:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-24 1:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-24 6:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 6:47 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-10-24 7:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 8:24 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-10-24 8:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 9:47 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-10-24 10:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 10:03 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-10-24 10:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 10:28 ` Philipp Stephani
2016-10-24 10:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 13:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-24 16:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 13:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-24 13:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 14:45 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-10-24 15:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 16:17 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-10-24 16:51 ` Philipp Stephani
2016-10-24 19:47 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-10-25 15:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-25 16:14 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-10-25 17:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-25 19:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-25 22:53 ` Perry E. Metzger
2016-10-26 2:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-26 2:37 ` Perry E. Metzger
2016-10-24 16:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-25 22:46 ` Perry E. Metzger
2016-10-24 9:40 ` Ken Raeburn
2016-10-24 13:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-25 9:02 ` Ken Raeburn
2016-10-25 13:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-27 8:51 ` Ken Raeburn
2016-10-30 14:43 ` Ken Raeburn
2016-10-30 15:31 ` Simon Leinen
2016-10-30 16:52 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-10-31 14:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-11-02 7:36 ` Ken Raeburn
2016-11-02 12:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-11-02 12:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-11-03 5:37 ` Ken Raeburn
2016-12-11 13:34 ` Ken Raeburn
2016-12-11 15:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-24 11:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-25 15:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-11 19:18 ` Richard Stallman
2016-12-15 12:57 ` Ken Raeburn
2016-12-15 16:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-15 16:26 ` Ken Raeburn
2016-12-11 19:18 ` Richard Stallman
2016-12-12 17:25 ` Ken Raeburn
2016-12-13 15:21 ` Ken Brown
2016-12-14 5:30 ` Ken Raeburn
2016-12-14 5:45 ` Ken Raeburn
2016-12-14 10:58 ` Phil Sainty
2016-12-14 12:06 ` Yuri Khan
2016-12-14 11:00 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-12-15 11:45 ` Ken Raeburn
2016-12-15 17:28 ` Ken Raeburn
2016-12-15 19:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-15 22:07 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-12-16 7:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-16 14:28 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-12-16 14:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-16 15:28 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-12-16 21:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-16 21:38 ` Noam Postavsky
2016-12-17 14:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-19 15:11 ` Phillip Lord
2016-12-16 7:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-19 15:15 ` Phillip Lord
2016-12-19 15:09 ` Phillip Lord
2016-12-20 18:57 ` Ken Raeburn
2016-12-20 23:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-21 7:44 ` Ken Raeburn
2016-12-21 12:13 ` Phillip Lord
2016-12-16 14:22 ` Robert Pluim
2016-12-24 13:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-26 17:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-07 9:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-09 10:28 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-01-10 2:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-10 9:46 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-01-10 17:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-11 6:32 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-01-12 8:17 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-01-14 10:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-14 10:55 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-01-14 11:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-14 11:26 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-01-14 12:19 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-01-14 13:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-14 15:12 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-01-14 17:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-14 18:50 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-01-14 15:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-14 17:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-14 18:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-14 20:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-21 7:58 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-01-22 16:55 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-02-02 9:10 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-02-04 10:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-05 14:19 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-02-05 15:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-05 23:19 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-02-06 15:20 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-02-06 15:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-06 19:08 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-02-06 22:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-08 10:31 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-02-08 14:38 ` Ken Brown
2017-02-05 20:03 ` Ken Brown
2017-02-25 14:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-25 15:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-26 12:37 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-03-04 14:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-06 8:46 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-03-11 12:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-11 13:18 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-03-11 13:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-11 15:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-11 21:48 ` Richard Stallman
2017-03-11 22:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-11 23:59 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-03-12 17:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-13 8:25 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-03-26 16:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-28 2:27 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-03-31 6:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-31 8:40 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-04-03 16:15 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-04-03 16:57 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-04-03 18:35 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-04-03 19:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-04 8:08 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-04-04 9:51 ` Robert Pluim
2017-04-04 10:27 ` joakim
2017-04-04 12:14 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-04-04 14:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-04 15:16 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-04-04 15:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-04 18:22 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-04-07 5:46 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2017-04-07 7:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-07 9:02 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-04-07 13:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-07 16:02 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-04-07 16:17 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-04-08 15:03 ` Philipp Stephani
2017-04-08 15:15 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-04-08 15:53 ` Philipp Stephani
2017-04-08 16:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-08 18:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-05-01 11:41 ` Philipp Stephani
2017-04-08 17:58 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-05-01 11:40 ` Philipp Stephani
2017-05-01 12:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-18 17:39 ` Daniel Colascione
2017-05-18 19:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-25 15:46 ` Philipp Stephani
2018-12-25 17:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-25 19:15 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-12-26 15:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-01-07 21:37 ` Daniel Colascione
2019-01-15 22:46 ` Daniel Colascione
2019-01-16 8:45 ` Tassilo Horn
2019-01-16 10:25 ` Robert Pluim
2019-01-16 11:58 ` Phillip Lord
2019-01-18 12:46 ` Windows Binaries with pdumper Phillip Lord
2019-01-21 11:30 ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2019-01-21 14:19 ` Phillip Lord
2019-01-16 12:00 ` Skipping unexec via a big .elc file Elias Mårtenson
2019-01-16 15:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-01-16 16:08 ` Daniel Colascione
2019-01-16 21:56 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-05-21 8:44 ` compiled lisp file format (Re: Skipping unexec via a big .elc file) Ken Raeburn
2017-05-21 8:53 ` Paul Eggert
2017-05-28 11:07 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-05-28 12:43 ` Philipp Stephani
2017-05-29 9:33 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-07-02 15:46 ` Philipp Stephani
2017-07-03 1:44 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-09-24 13:57 ` Philipp Stephani
2017-09-27 8:31 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-05-28 21:09 ` Paul Eggert
2017-05-29 9:33 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-05-29 16:37 ` Paul Eggert
2017-05-29 17:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-29 18:03 ` Paul Eggert
2017-05-29 18:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-29 20:15 ` Paul Eggert
2017-05-30 5:52 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-05-30 5:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-21 16:02 ` John Wiegley
2017-04-07 13:23 ` Skipping unexec via a big .elc file Stefan Monnier
2017-04-10 16:19 ` Ken Raeburn
2016-10-24 18:34 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2016-10-24 19:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-23 12:55 ` When should ralloc.c be used? Stefan Monnier
2016-10-23 14:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-23 14:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-23 15:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-23 15:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-23 16:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-23 16:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-23 16:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-23 17:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-23 20:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-23 20:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-23 20:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-24 5:11 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-24 12:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-24 13:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 14:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-24 16:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 18:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-24 14:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-24 15:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 16:27 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-10-24 16:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-25 2:34 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-25 14:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-25 14:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-28 6:03 ` Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas
2016-10-28 6:23 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-10-28 7:09 ` Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas
2016-10-28 7:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-28 8:11 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-10-28 8:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-28 8:44 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-10-28 9:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-28 9:52 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-10-28 12:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-28 13:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-28 14:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-28 14:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-28 15:41 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-10-29 6:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-29 6:14 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-10-28 12:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-28 11:40 ` Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas
2016-10-28 13:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-28 14:41 ` Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas
2016-10-28 15:34 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-10-24 18:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-24 19:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-25 14:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-25 16:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-25 19:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-25 3:12 ` Ken Raeburn
2016-10-25 16:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-26 4:36 ` Ken Raeburn
2016-10-26 11:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-27 8:51 ` Ken Raeburn
2016-10-24 6:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 12:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-24 13:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 14:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-24 15:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 18:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-24 16:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 16:56 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-24 0:21 ` When should ralloc.c be used? (WAS: bug#24358) Richard Stallman
2016-10-24 3:59 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-24 7:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 16:55 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-24 17:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-25 2:35 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-25 6:38 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-25 16:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-25 23:49 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-26 5:08 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-26 11:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-26 13:10 ` Noam Postavsky
2016-10-26 14:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-27 1:23 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-27 1:36 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-27 13:35 ` Perry E. Metzger
2016-10-27 14:51 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-27 15:05 ` Perry E. Metzger
2016-10-27 18:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-27 21:03 ` Perry E. Metzger
2016-10-27 21:07 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-10-27 23:23 ` Perry E. Metzger
2016-10-27 23:32 ` When should ralloc.c be used? Daniel Colascione
2016-10-28 7:06 ` When should ralloc.c be used? (WAS: bug#24358) Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-28 7:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-27 13:44 ` Fabrice Popineau
2016-10-27 15:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-27 20:39 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-28 6:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-28 19:12 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-29 6:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-29 14:55 ` When should ralloc.c be used? Stefan Monnier
2016-10-30 16:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-30 21:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-29 16:38 ` When should ralloc.c be used? (WAS: bug#24358) Richard Stallman
2016-10-29 21:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-31 19:18 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-31 20:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-28 12:51 ` When should ralloc.c be used? Stefan Monnier
2016-10-27 20:40 ` When should ralloc.c be used? (WAS: bug#24358) Richard Stallman
2016-10-27 22:34 ` Paul Eggert [this message]
2016-10-28 2:40 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-28 7:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-28 2:40 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-28 6:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-26 11:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-27 1:24 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-28 12:57 ` When should ralloc.c be used? Stefan Monnier
2016-10-28 19:13 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-28 22:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-29 16:35 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-29 6:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-29 16:37 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-29 21:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-30 11:33 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-30 15:33 ` Alp Aker
2016-10-30 17:19 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-30 16:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-25 23:49 ` When should ralloc.c be used? (WAS: bug#24358) Richard Stallman
2016-10-25 2:35 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-25 16:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-27 1:22 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-25 23:00 ` Perry E. Metzger
2016-10-26 2:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-27 1:25 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-24 14:04 ` When should ralloc.c be used? Stefan Monnier
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