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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:228234 Archived-At: > And of course, "C-x &" invokes a command.=20 Yes. But invoking a command is not being a command. > This is equivalent to "M-x universal-async-argument".=20 Presumably you mean that using key sequence `C-x &' is equivalent to using = `M-x universal-async-argument'. That's another way of saying that `C-x &' i= nvokes command `universal-async-argument'. If you wanted to call command `universal-async-argument' a "prefix command"= you could do so. But `C-x &' is not a prefix command or any other kind of = command. > So I don't see what's wrong with "prefix command" - it is a command which= precedes another command. Command `universal-async-argument', when invoked, precedes invocation of th= e command bound to the key sequence read by `universal-asyn-argument'. Yes. And using `C-x &' precedes reading of that second key sequence. But neither= of those things make `C-x &' into a command, prefix, postfix, or *fix. > > We can, if you want, have a separate discussion, taking our time, to > > decide whether and what to name this. >=20 > Subject adapted. Thx.